I've been a streetfighter player pretty much my whole life. I get know joy out of winning against someone that doesn't stand a chance. I'd much rather lose to a worthy opponent than have an easy win. Competition is what makes games fun. Those who don't like competition are called losers.

Oops! correction. "No" joy

at least 75 points undercosted

If your opponent isn't a challenge than why are you playing against them? Once an opponent agrees to the match your equals, he agreed made a team learned the rules and read the powers. He CANNOT get better without losing i repeat CANNOT.

The only reason this started was due to talking about the mentality of "x vs y" being stupid. And the only reason that i said "No one tries to have fun even if they lose." was to give reasoning as to why someone may want an opinion on who would win in a given scenario. Simple as that and that mentality we have is as you would say "Stupid". As for maturity, you would have just never commented on our conversation in the first place and you would have commented on the character...... Which i did by referencing a question a couple of comments down from mine. Gave my opinion on the matter, I guess i just honestly don't see the problem with what was said.... lmfao.

To answer your question, I don't know if they're a challenge or not until I play them. I was just giving an example of winning not being everything. Especially in heroclix. I can't take a game that's ultimately decided on a dice roll seriously. I think if heroclix wasn't superhero based, most ppl wouldn't play it. Bottom line, I like this Superman. I look forward to using it and playing against it. I think a superman that is powerful and hard to beat is an accurate Superman. For those of you who don't like powerful pieces, maybe checkers if the game for you.

The pieces in this set are too ridiculous. What is going on at wizkids hq?

See, it wouldn't be as bad if they had made ultraman, shazam, black Adam and the likes have a similar power set, or at least similar stats/values. Now that the other "powerhouses have been revealed and mainly hold 17 defense values...idk what happened. I can see Superman winning many battles, but against these guys he should have to work hard. This Superman is awesome, all of the other big guns...I didn't like as much, now making this superman better than he should have been.

ok wizkids, please take ALL of my MONEY..NO, I INSIST!!

DAMN, now THAT'S Superman! An absolute BEAST of a character, who still has vulnerabilities, like Outwit. I can see why some people are a little upset being how amazing he is for the cost (Goodbye 300 pt #001 Superman!), but realistically, all you need is an outwit or a pulse-wave and you can still get him.

He's friendly to himself. So when he succeeds with leadership he's walking around with 13 attack and 20 defense?

Yikes.

That's a BIG part of what makes him nuts; add on the trait, and you get a level of brokenness that actually breaks the game. Even speaking as a die-hard Superman fan, this piece should not exist.

Love it!!! This is how superman should be strong as *BLEEP*. I hope I pull him. SUPERMAN FTW!!

EXACTLY!!!

he is bonkers ! My only real problem with sups is he should never have HSS. I have never read a comic were he runs up and kills! not hits some one. Then runs away. The only reason I say kills is because he always does crazy damage and there is no rule yet were Ultra heavy objects cant be used with HSS.