I TK'd V Fury and then had her Charge (with Flight) a target (Black panther on an object on the corner...you all know what I'm talking about) that was on elevated terrain.

My Judge ruled that fliers can not make CC attacks against elevated terrain. I said okay, I think you're wrong, BUT can I Perplex Fury's movement to have the 1 extra move point to go to Soaring (my opponent was very gracious...and clamming up). Judge said Soaring figs ALSO can NOT make CC attacks against elevated targets.

Anyway, I didn't want to throw a hissy-fit...didn't have my rules or FAQs...don't have them now actually.

But something's not kosher somewhere in these rulings!

HELP!

Well, it sounds like the judge was right, if I assume correctly.

If Fury stops on the elevated terrain you could do it, but if she stops on normal terrain adjhacent to elevated, she can't. You can't make a close combat attack from the ground to elevated, even if you are right next to the figure-- only a ranged attack (unless you have leap/climb). And soaring characters cannot attack grounded figures at all.

Thanks I_M, that was the prevailing opinion.

I wish I could look at the FAQ here at work...I would have sworn there was a note about hovering figs NOT being grounded, or it lists the three things that are grounded and fliers weren't one of them...

And somehwere (maybe Wizkids?) I read a hot debate about l/c and soarers and elevated and grounded and hovering, etc.

Ahhh well, I was getting thrashed anyway, just wanted to bag that Panther.

Fury would have to be hovering on elevated terrain in order to make a close combat attack against an elevated figure.

As for what grounded means, a hovering figure is grounded unless on elevated terrain. Elevated figures are not grounded, meanwhile, so it would be more precise to say that soaring characters cannot affect non-soaring figures.

As a side point a L/C fig could have made that attack. Unfortunately my G/F has my Indy rule card and I don't have my FAQ with me but from the DC PAC

"This character may make a close combat attack against a character in an adjacent square. regardless of the target's elevation."

I think it's important to keep any rules quotes from the Indy rules as even this line is different. From the FAQ (Leap/Climb was updated there):
"This character may target a grounded or soaring figure with a close combat action, regardless of the target’s elevation."

One important distinction is that it can be done with a close combat action.

hehe.. you know I actually originally worded it action and then when I read the PAC to make sure I was correct I saw attack so I changed it. Thanks for the clarification Canada Maestro

First, thanks for the help!

I don't mean to go off on a rant here, but...

This needs to be fixed IMO. If a flying fig can freely move onto elevated terrain, then it should be able to make a CC attack against an elevated target. And to top it off a Charging Soaring fig can't attack elevated targets with a CC attack. I guess elevated terrain (conceptually) needs to be viewed as, like, a nuetral zone or something. Maybe the In-Betweener (anyone remember him?) could somehow have Team Ability to somehow pull this off. Drat, what an oversight.

At least we can't have Charging Leap-Climbers.

This would also lead me to believe that OWAW Superman could not make a HSS CC attack against an elevated target?(of course he would only do this with an object since he has a ranged attack, but that's the point). That's quirky.

I guess now that I'm done ranting I did think of a problem rule-wise if I had been correct. After the resolution of the attack, my Charging hovering fig would have then been non-adjacent for all intents even though it had just made a CC attack w/o L/C

Okay, rant done.