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First off Bertie I read your equipment primer before asking this.
Looking at the rules for equipping and standard characters, there's a distinction between linking and non-linking equipment. and I'm just trying to wrap my head around this distinction.
Jocasta is a linked equipment, she and the individual equipping her both need to be on the same click number, and so needs to have click numbers.
Weapon Drop is not linked, and I think because of this doesn't need click numbers to use the equipment. But I'm not sure if that was rolled into the definition of a standard character and i misread/misunderstood the definition.
A.I. ENTITY POSSESSION: When Jocasta is KO'd or if you pay 25 points when building your force, equip this character to a friendly character if it has the Armor or Robot keyword and link it to that character's dial.
EFFECT: At the beginning of your turn or after this character is clicked, you may choose 1 power on the equipped dial and 1 combat value on the equipped dial higher than this character's same printed combat value. This character can use that power and modifies that combat value by +1 until your next turn or clicked.
Weapon Drop: At the beginning of the game, roll a d6 that can't be rerolled and turn this dial to that click number.
Equip: Give a friendly character in this square or holding this object a power action to equip it. Opposing characters can KO this object only by using it in an object attack.
Jocasta tells you to link her dial to the character she is equipped to, the Weapon Drop doesn't. So, Weapon drop isn't linked, simple as that.
Now, as to click numbers: the ruling on click numbers was made in relation to dials being linked. If the dial isn't linked, a standard character does not need click numbers to have something equipped to it.
"I think it is very important to consider your venue a community and not a commodity." - tyroclix
Now, as to click numbers: the ruling on click numbers was made in relation to dials being linked. If the dial isn't linked, a standard character does not need click numbers to have something equipped to it.
To further clarify, only a few characters would fall into that category, such as Teekl, and other characters that have their own base.. Bystanders by definition are not considered Standard Characters
To further clarify, only a few characters would fall into that category, such as Teekl, and other characters that have their own base.. Bystanders by definition are not considered Standard Characters
I assumed the question was directed at Golden Age figures that don't have click numbers but a great clarification.
"I think it is very important to consider your venue a community and not a commodity." - tyroclix
EQUIP
[C]Only game elements that specify they are "equipped" and have an EFFECT listing are considered equipped items.
Ok, that means the Weapon Drop is an "equipped item".
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[C]Only standard characters may become equipped unless an effect specifies otherwise.
Ok, what's a standard character? More below.
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[C]During force construction, a character can’t be equipped with more than one game element.
[C]If a character equipped with an item is KO'd, the equipped item is KO'd and scored for your opponent if appropriate.
[C]If a character equipped with an item is equipped with a second item, the previously equipped item will be KO’d and scored for your opponent if appropriate.
[C]A character that becomes equipped to another character is no longer considered a character on your force or for any game effects that refer to “characters”. Other than any effects they provide as an equipped item, they would no longer be able to use any of their other powers or abilities. They would, however, be affected by effects that refer to equipped items.
[C]Game elements that can be equipped that are included on your force are considered friendly to your force.
[C]You may not equip friendly items to characters that began the game on an opponent’s force. If an equipped opposing character becomes friendly to your force, you may not use the EFFECT of any game elements equipped to them.
[C]If a standard character equipped with an item becomes a non-standard character due to a game effect other than an effect granted by the equipped item, the equipped item remains equipped, but the equipped character can no longer use the items equip EFFECT unless it becomes a standard character again.
all good, but not relevant to this question.
Oh - here it is, same thread:
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STANDARD CHARACTER
[C]A standard character is a character that is not a bystander and does not possess the , , , , , or combat symbols.
So, as discussed above, you can't "equip" the Weapon Drop to Despotellis (he's tiny), to Karu-Sil's The Pack (it's a bystander), but you can equip it to an old-school Parademon Grunt (who has no click numbers) if you are so inclined.
But you can't equip Jocasta to that same Parademon Grunt - because you can't link to a dial without click numbers.
(I just pulled one out my "Apokolips" keyword box to confirm - the units section shows click numbers - that's how it's programmed - the dial has no click numbers on it).
So ... it's almost the same "equip" mechanism, but not identical.
I assumed the question was directed at Golden Age figures that don't have click numbers but a great clarification.
it was, bystanders where mentioned by name as unequipable. It was a matter of if some oldie like HOTS ultron could pick up a weapon drop, or if the numbers mattered all around.
Thanks all for the information. And thanks Bertie for the long old write out you just did there.