Pretty straightforward question: Can vehicles' carry ablity be countered?

the new Vehicle rules state that they "can use" the Carry ability. Outwit allows you to counter a "possessed" power or combat ability.

A vehicle may have the symbol which indicates it "possesses" the Carry ability, and THAT may be outwitted.

BUT, the vehicle still "can use" Carry from the new rules/descriptions, so outwitting the Carry ability granted by the symbol is a moot point.

Agree w/ dc3504, plus found something on the WORF that helps expand:

From this thread :

Question: Are the abilities granted by the steering wheel symbol combat abilities that can be countered/ignored?

Answer: No. They are not abilities. They are rules explaining how to use a vehicle and can not be countered, ignored, or disregarded in any way.

[E]PASSENGERS: Vehicles can use the Carry ability. Whenever they use the Carry ability do not modify their speed value from using it and they can carry up to the number of characters next to the ;Passenger; symbol as passengers, ignoring the speed symbols of passengers.

I believe the answer would be yes the Carry Ability granted by the PASSENGER rule can be countered under certain circumstances, but Outwit (as mentioned above) is not one of them.

Also note PASSENGER is a rule not an ability and can not be countered.

I think PASSENGER is the rule, but Carry is still an ability.

Thanks for the clarification. I had forgot about the rule not being counterable. Didn't even occur to me to mention it.

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