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11/23/2016, 23:28

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Quote : Originally Posted by ozzytoys

Am I wrong for reading that the check for the Theme Team and the stat modifier are only "when building your force"? His trait is only 2 sentences, both connecting to force construction.

The second sentence says nothing about force construction.

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11/23/2016, 23:29

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Quote : Originally Posted by ozzytoys

Am I wrong for reading that the check for the Theme Team and the stat modifier are only "when building your force"? His trait is only 2 sentences, both connecting to force construction.

The second sentence doesn't have anything to do with force construction.

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11/23/2016, 23:30

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Quote : Originally Posted by normalview

The second sentence says nothing about force construction.

It's read as an "If" to the first though, which applies at force construction only.

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11/23/2016, 23:36

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Quote : Originally Posted by ozzytoys

It's read as an "If" to the first though, which applies at force construction only.

No, its not. There's no connection made in that sentence.

11/24/2016, 02:10

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Quote : Originally Posted by Roderic_Cliche

+5 CONTRACT KILLER: When building your force, a themed team may include Deadshot and still be a themed team if your force includes a character with a point value greater than 80. If your force doesn't have a character with a point value greater than 80, modify Deadshot's combat values by -1.

Quote : Originally Posted by ozzytoys

Am I wrong for reading that the check for the Theme Team and the stat modifier are only "when building your force"? His trait is only 2 sentences, both connecting to force construction.

If both sentences are related to force construction then there would be literally no reason at all to include the underlined bit.

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+5 CONTRACT KILLER: When building your force, a themed team may include Deadshot and still be a themed team. If your force doesn't have a character with a point value greater than 80, modify Deadshot's combat values by -1.

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11/26/2016, 23:36

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+5 CONTRACT KILLER: When building your force, a themed team may include Deadshot and still be a themed team if your force includes a character with a point value greater than 80. If your force doesn't have a character with a point value greater than 80, modify Deadshot's combat values by -1.

From the errata pages:

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[C]KO'd game elements are removed from the game. They are no longer part of your force or Sideline.

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FORCE
[C]Your force is all game elements that you currently are using during the game. This includes the game elements that were included on your starting force and may include game elements that are not currently on the map (but have not been removed from the game) and game elements added to your force after the game has begun.

Bold and underline added by me to point out the important part that links it all together

If you pay to use the trait and at some point you don't have an 80+ point character on your force then Deadshot get -1 to values.

11/30/2016, 20:46

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I've been asked to remove this post.

Last edited by ozzytoys; 11/30/2016 at 21:25..

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11/30/2016, 22:13

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Has this been submitted to and answered on the WIN?

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11/30/2016, 23:00

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Submitted, yes. Answered on the WIN, not yet.

12/05/2016, 11:40

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They answered: http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....001dcae#p26166

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If the cost for CONTRACT KILLER was paid, and there is no character greater than 80 points on your starting force, Deadshot will count towards the theme check.
The effect is passive and continuously checks if the force has a character greater than 80 points on that force. If no such character is on the force, then Deadshot will have his combat values modified by -1.

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