There used to be a rule that stated effects which alter the way a character is KOed can not be ignored. I do not see any similarly worded rule with Protected: Pulse Wave in the new rules for effects which KO a figure.

Does that mean that if HaHa Joker crossed over a line from Pulse Wave damage he would not lose an Escape Token?

He loses an escape token. The PW isn't altering how he's KO'ed (applicable if that token is his last).

And the old entry is still either in the rule book or the supplement. I read over it the other day.

His trait is altering the way he is KOed since he has no KO clicks.

Why would he lose an Escape token? He would not be using his trait due to the Pulse Wave. Nothing in the trait says it can not be ignored.

Which book and what page? I do not see it anywhere.

I can't seem to find it either. I did a search for "KO"" and thought i saw every instance and never found it in both books.

Given that the ruling was these kinds of effects that alter how a figure is KO'd couldn't be ignored or circumvented in any way, I'd have to assume that is still the case. Otherwise, it causes all sorts of issues, like the Supreme Intelligence/ this Joker question that came up a while ago, in this thread- http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=569835

Also, given that under the old rules, any effect like this could not be countered or ignored, so it can easily be argued that they should all automatically have Protected" Outwit and Pulse Wave rolled into them.

This should probably be asked on the WIN, but my guess is it's just something that got missed in the rules changeover. They'll either need to reissue a clarification, or errata a whole bunch of stuff.

Agreed on all counts LJ.

The Shredder Elite explicitly saying "This can not be ignored" was what initially got me thinking about if it was still a general rule. If I were judging I think I would still pretend it was a rule because of cases like this Joker and others.

Shredder Elite doesn't change how they are KO'ed, only when. So, even with the general rule, they need that explicitly stated on their Trait to get around Pulse Wave.

I looked again but I think I simply read the explanation about alternate KOs and filled in the general rule.

Asked on the WIN, let's see if I get an answer (or am blacklisted).

Good call re: Shredder Elite.

Thanks for asking!