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Oh, I get it, it just feels wrong to replace a Jewish person with a pair of Neo-Nazis. That's just my take on it, though.
Quote : Originally Posted by SkullBrother47
I've got the same kind of feeling about playing Hydra teams at all anymore. Until this new tide of Neo-Nazi Real Life Bastardry has been quashed, I can't bring myself to play a team with the Red Skull on it, or anybody so affiliated.
I think Stan Lee used the name Hydra for a good reason. And he had no problem to create characters for this organisation and use them. So I do not really understand not to use them in a game with characters he made.
I'm from Germany. I don't like to play historic games like Flames of War and Bolt Action for a good reason. Or better I can't do it. I got strong drepressions whilte painting FoW minis. So I sold my US troops to a friend. Just the theme alone was already to much for me.
A friend of mine who knows nearly everything about WW2 does play both games, would never play SS troops, if he would play Nazis.
As long it is Fantasy, like S.H.I.E.L.D. vs Hydra, I can live with it. Especially if it is created by a jew.
About a Stan Lee Set, I would love to get a set full of by him created characters. Especially if there would be many not released or seldom released characters in it. And the Fantastic Four.
And the chases would be other creators who made them together with Stan Lee or made fantastic storylines.
I think Stan Lee used the name Hydra for a good reason. And he had no problem to create characters for this organisation and use them. So I do not really understand not to use them in a game with characters he made.
I'm from Germany. I don't like to play historic games like Flames of War and Bolt Action for a good reason. Or better I can't do it. I got strong drepressions whilte painting FoW minis. So I sold my US troops to a friend. Just the theme alone was already to much for me.
A friend of mine who knows nearly everything about WW2 does play both games, would never play SS troops, if he would play Nazis.
As long it is Fantasy, like S.H.I.E.L.D. vs Hydra, I can live with it. Especially if it is created by a jew.
I get this, and I certainly don't begrudge anyone else from playing Hydra teams for these reasons. It is, obviously, comic book fantasy. But for me, it was a lot easier to chalk this up to fantasy when my country seemed to pretty much all agree that Nazis were horrible bad guys and worthy only of scorn and derision. Instead, my country has elected a Nazi sympathizer as its leader, and the terror of it is all too real and all too omnipresent in our daily lives. Thus, I feel a twinge of guilt at considering playing a team where I'm rooting for even pseudo-Nazis to win a fight.
I've wanted to play that Red Onslaughtish Red Skull for a long time now, but I haven't ever gotten around to it, and it's harder to consider now. Although I might be able to satisfy my conscience if I play a Hydra team and just refer to each character as someone in the Trump administration. "President Trump will use his Twitter Mind Control power to target..."
... and now I'm wondering about building a Hydra team with that specific theme in mind. But I won't sully up a Stan Lee memorial thread with taking that train of thought any furher. Sorry to derail.
EDIT: I meant 'further.' What an ironic typo.
Last edited by SkullBrother47; 11/16/2018 at 21:36..
I've got the same kind of feeling about playing Hydra teams at all anymore. Until this new tide of Neo-Nazi Real Life Bastardry has been quashed, I can't bring myself to play a team with the Red Skull on it, or anybody so affiliated.
New tide of Neo Nazi's?? Do tell...If you're referring to those 200 idiots holding the tiki torches a year or so ago, I'd hardly call that a tide...
"Our mother has been absent ever since we founded Rome; but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home."
I don't want to derail the Stan Lee memorial thread by veering into dogwhistlers in the highest levels of government.
Instead, I just want to note that Stan Lee was a tireless ambassador for the comic medium when nobody else cared at all, and that's something to really appreciate him for now that almost everybody cares.