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#EX055 Hulk
Real Name: Bruce Banner
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Keywords: Earth X, Monster
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The Hulk Is An Extension Of...Me: At the beginning of the game, generate a Bruce bystander. As long as Bruce is on the map, when Hulk would be given an action token, you may instead give Hulk a Soul token and don't clear his action tokens that turn. When Bruce is KO'd, after resolutions remove all of Hulk's Soul tokens and deal him 2 unavoidable damage for each removed token. He Is Safe As Long As I Am Out Here: Battle Fury. If Hulk has 1 or more Soul tokens, Hulk has PROTECTED: Outwit. If Hulk has 3 more Soul tokens, he has PROTECTED: Penetrating/Psychic Blast and Exploit Weakness.
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Note: Bruce has the Autonomous attack symbol.
Pretty sure this will be errataed quickly, but that Trait does not have Protected:Pulse Wave. Would be pretty easy to abuse by PWing your own Hulk and Bruce after building up a few Soul tokens. Anyone plan on doing their own prerelease errata for this?
I'm not sure I understand. Why would you want to pulse wave your own Hulk and Bruce? How would that be abused?
To turn off his trait at the same time as Bruce dying, that way you get the benefits without the drawback of damage on Hulk.
I really doubt it's as easy as it seems though, especially since it means keeping your entire team lumped together as far from the enemy team as you can so they don't just kill Bruce.
I think the idea is to build up soul tokens on Hulk to get the benefits, then pulsewave with both Bruce and Hulk in the same attack. Bruce will die, but if the trait on Hulk doesn't have Protected:PW then it should be ignored. Thus when Bruce dies Hulk won't have the trait active so he won't take the unavoidable and won't clear soul tokens.
But the trait read "after resolutions" which would make it happen after the PW action. So it shouldn't be a loophole?
But the trigger (when Bruce is KO'd) would be ignored during PW so the resolution wouldn't kick in... same reason you don't take mystics damage when you PW them.
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????
I think the idea is to build up soul tokens on Hulk to get the benefits, then pulsewave with both Bruce and Hulk in the same attack. Bruce will die, but if the trait on Hulk doesn't have Protected:PW then it should be ignored. Thus when Bruce dies Hulk won't have the trait active so he won't take the unavoidable and won't clear soul tokens.
But the trait read "after resolutions" which would make it happen after the PW action. So it shouldn't be a loophole?
No, the trigger itself isn't active, meaning the "after resolutions" effect won't happen either. Essentially, the "after resolutions" bit doesn't 'know' that anything happened because the power couldn't be used when Bruce died.