You are currently viewing HCRealms.com, The Premier HeroClix Community, as a Guest. If you would like to participate in the community, please Register to join the discussion!
If you are having problems registering to an account, feel free to Contact Us.
Sanctuary in the Sky STILL has its moments. Most people don't think to use it in their burn deck, but the Agents are extremely deadly burn monsters.
The Agent of Judgement - Saturn is most of the time capable of ending the game, and its "no battle phase" drawback is barely an issue with a Burn deck.
The Agent of Force - Mars is pretty much an attacker made for burn decks. Its level three status and zero attack let it attack under Messenger of Peace, Gravity Bind, and Level Limit Area B! Like Saturn, Mars' attack will almost always be around 4000.
Yep, that is the "wimpy" Archfiend that came out in the TP6s. For a while its stats were erroneously reported and people thought it was a 1900 beater. Nonetheless, it probably won't see much action in my Archfiend deck though it does finally give us something to search with when the Darkbishop is destroyed while Pandemonium is on the field 8^D
um, that why vilepawn exists, bud. hes much better than a friggin marmot.
I could trade you a japanese beast of talwar for a decent trap magic or zombie card to help my zombie deck.
You might want to try PM'ing Gailsad for trades. I think we drove him insane back around post 500, when he wrote, "Stop it, stop it, stop it!!!" Somehow I doubt that he remains subscribed to this thread.
On the other hand, lets review how this all started:
Quote : Originally Posted by Gailsad
My friend had a "stack" deck, but thanks to my help, it's down to 42 cards. But he had no financial aid for the deck he really wanted, a Fiend Annoyance deck. We've already agreed on the most annoying Traps:
Bark of Dark Ruler
Compulsory
Draining Shield
BUt I see so many mediocre Fiends and no strategy! Could you guys help me?
I hope that we have alleviated the misconception of no strategy. Much less that there is ANYTHING mediocre about Fiends.
GOAL OF THE DECK: To use Fiends and Spells/Traps in order to squeeze out as much annoyance and hatred towards you as possible, then annoyingly win, then GET THE HELL OUT OF THE STORE 'cause your opponent's going to kill you!
Oh, Dark Ruler, bless us all. For we have seen the light......and destroyed it. :rolleyes:
Waldo, I know you're the fiend expert, and if anyone else runs Fiend, give MAJOR HELP. Any post is appreciated (on topic.)Not only have the Fiend experts heeded that call, we have MADE Fiend experts here.
Well everyone, this new format that will be here in October may have some changes in store for fiend duelists. If Spikes and Baron and the list floating around here on the realms is correct, there will be no more Soldier on one hand, but no more Night Assailant Abuse either (at least not in the sense of retrieving himself)! Also fiends will be well equipped to handle Vampire Lord abuse, with both Giant Orc and Goblin Elite Attack Force to take him down. Mefist will also have to find some new targets to trample with less goats running around. I know this is still not totally confirmed, but I couldn't resist getting some opinions on how this will affect the more fiendishly inclined duelists!
Also, I just read that apparently Kevin has said that our list may be different than the OCG list. *Shrugs*
All in all though, Fiends haven't been hit too badly. NA wasn't as powerful as it once was since it was reduced to two and the reduction to one, while maybe stopping a few comboes, is hardly devestating. Otherwise we've been left pretty much alone, although I know I'll be side-decking (at the very least) an End of Anubis to deal with these Vampire Lords that'll be everywhere.
I'm not even sure how useful Night Assailant is now that's it's limited to one. I could still justify using it when it was semi-limited but as a limited? I'll probably drop it myslef.
Well the NEW generation of fiends, the War Gods were badly hurt from this since they lost their Graceful Charity.
But all in all i think the list is pretty good, and didnt hurt the fiend community alot. Now though Goblin Elite Attack Force can take revenge on 3 Maruading Captains. That would also be a problem as our good counterparts get more power, but also loses it since the Luster King is gone.
I myself have just decided to drop Night Assailant. With only one of them there doesn't seem much point to it, and with Duo gone it doesn't even justify as Hand protection.
So what exactly is our new list going to look like?
I hope it's something drastic, because I've been dying to test some stuff out and can't seem to find the room.
Although from the sound of it they're messing with Night Assailant and Scapegoat? That's a shame, considering I wanted to abuse my Cybernetic Magicians with them... UDE never lets me have any fun! <insert tantrum here>
I find it funny that Graceful Charity flip flops so much, yet they haven't looked at Pot of Greed. Especially now with the impending banning of BLS. Which brings me to my next point...
GIVE ME BACK PAINFUL CHOICE! Chaos had their fun with it, but now they're both banned and Painful should come off. UDE angered Necrofear when they did this, and as we all know an angry Necrofear is not a good one.
That's it for now.
P.S. dragon-reborn, your magician burn rules! Can't wait for the structures!
I'm not even sure how useful Night Assailant is now that's it's limited to one. I could still justify using it when it was semi-limited but as a limited? I'll probably drop it myslef.
you can still use it for its first effect, you can also bring back cyber, slate or any other useful flips in the graveyard.
thats true. And with a reduction to one, players wont feel as reluctant to set Night Assailant for that first effect. But Night Assailant stopped being useful to most of my decks a little while ago, so Im not going to miss it.
Saturnine: according to the rumor thread by HalfDemonInuyas in our Rumor forum the new additions look like this.<---that is a link
the last page puts up this latest info:
Quote
Ban:
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End - Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning - *
Witch of Black Forest
Makyura the Destructor
Fiber Jar
Magical Scientist
Yata-garusu Sinister Serpent *
Mirage of Nightmare Delinquent Duo * Graceful Charity *
Painful Choice
The Forceful Sentry
Change of Heart
Raigeki
Monster Reborn
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Harpie Feather Duster
Imperial Order Sixth Sense ***[/i]umm...did I miss this release[i] Ring of Destruction * Mirror Force *
Restrict to 1:
D.D. Warrior Lady
Injection Fairy Lily
Sangan
Dark Magician of Chaos
Cyber Jar
Protector of the Santuary
Jinzo
Twin-Headed Behemoth
Tribe-Infection Virus
Exiled Force
Nephthys the Sacred Phoneix
Exodia the Forbidden One
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Reflect Bounder
Marshmallonwhy can't I ever remember what this card does???
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Morphing Jar #1 Tsukunomi ** Thousand Eyes Restrict ** Night Assailant *
Confiscation * Dark Hole * Scapegoat ** Limiter Removal ** Book of Moon ** Metamorphosis **
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Pot of Greed
Mystical Space Typhoon
United We Stand
Card Destruction
Premature Burial
Swords of Revealing Light
Mage Power
Lightning Vortex
Torrental Tribute Exchange of Spirit *** Crush Card ***
Mirror Force
Deck Devastation Virus
Ceasefire
Ring of Destruction
Magic Cylinder
Reckless Greed
Call of the Haunted
Restrict to 2 (Semi-Restrict):
Abyss Soldier
Manticore of Darkness
Black Scorpion - Chick the Yellow -
Creature Swap
Reinforcement of the Army
Upstart Goblin
Emergency Provisions
Nobleman of Crossout
Limit Area - Level B
Gravity Bind
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Last Turn!
Unrestrict:
Vampire Lord
Marauding Captain
Still trying to slow down the OTKs I see, by not releasing Painful while banning Graceful. Se la vie. Scapegoat, BoM, Tsukoyomi, Limiter Removal all restricted to one......not surprising. they comprised most of the meta and OTK (Cyber) that we would expect to cripple the game. Though loss of 3 Scapegoats mangles several of my own designs, including my main deck: Gren Maju de Eiza
There is one card I was expecting to come off, after I thought about the power of the Dark Realm monsters: Confiscation. If you think about it, that card will be quite a bane to the Dark Realm.
With unrestricted Maurauding Captains, Vampire Lords, Rescue Cats, and Dark Realm monsters, you can predict how swarm is being encouraged. At the same time, this list has Dark Hole. Necrofear will be more viable than she has been since her effect rulings were updated.
I hope you notice that Ring of Destruction and Mirror Force are listed on the Ban and the Restricted lists (??) This hasn't been confirmed in stone, as far as Ive seen, so if someone does have a more concrete affirmation, please tell.
My Goblin Kings are not happy about restricting TER and Metamorphasis, though. Cant say its any more unexpected than when DDWL was restricted to 1 during the last Ban.
Anything I missed? Sinister Serpent, Delinquent Duo, BLS? Eh..
LOL squid, where did you copy that from? The list on DMComet has Mirror Force and Ring listed as banned, not limited as well.
Sixth Sense is a Japan-only card, and would probably be banned the minute it touched these shores, I don't think it's considered a 'priority' card right now as far as releasing stuff goes...
Marshmellon... hang on...
PP6-001
MARSHMALLON
Light/Angel/4/300/500
The controller of a Monster that attacks this card while face-down
receives 1000 points of damage after Damage Calculation. This
card can't be destroyed as a result of Battle. (Damage is
calculated normally)
ULTRA RARE
Straight from Edo's. Although, I fixed his spelling xD
That's about it really. There's been nothing to dispute the authenticity of this list so far - such as Kevin dropping by, calling us all morons for believing it, and disappearing again :cheeky:
I copied it from page 5 of that rumor thread I mentioned, by HalfDemonInuyas. Sorry, I forget the poster, but if I remember correctly, they said they got it from DMComet.
*blink* it sounds like.."I heard it from the friend of a friend of a friend", doesnt it? :D
Marshmellon=PP6? No wonder I cant remember it, lol. I suck at remembering promo cards, exclusive sets, hobby cards, and tins. If it didn't come in the expansion set, forget it, my mind is a sieve. (explains why I never remember Gilfer and Inferno Hammer either)
Yeah, I'm a little shocked they've whiddled Night Assailant down to 1 now, but utlimately it makes sense with all the free discards that were becoming available. I must admit I was abusing Night Assailant quite a bit with a dual Raigeki Break, dual Divine Wrath trap set going. We'll just devise some more means of fiendishness 8^D
Ring of Destruction has got to hurt a little though, Dillie-O. Giant Kokazy OTK? I know some of my ideas were always short because of the RoD restrictin. But now, outright banning really puts out some of those fires.