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Mrs. Cyclops can TK an object from under a figure, Stealthed or not, with no problems (as explicitly stated in the current FAQ), however she cannot then attack the figure with it unless they DO NOT have Stealth. I'm also inferring from HeroComplex's post that you can only attack the adjacent enemy with it. So if you're next to Black Panther on an object, your only option is to move the object away from him leaving him open for someone else to shoot him.
Hmmm. Makes absolutely no sense to me, but I always accept the "official" rulings here. Of course, that's only long enough for us to make a house rule about it.
Whenever someone asks me what I think the most dangerous animal is, i tell them it has to be a shark riding on an elephant, just eating and trampling everything in sight.
I guess you could move it behind you (or underneath you and give yourself a defense bonus for next turn from ranged guys) then on your next turn TK Attack BP.
Honestly, Think People Unless You Are Attacking TK Is A Close Combat Why Not Just TK Black Panther Into The Middle Of A Firing Zone....
-E
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
Because TKing an opposing figure requires an attack roll, whereas TKing an object is automatic. And when next to Black Panther, oftentimes you want to take the sure way out instead of risking getting mauled.
Yeah Thats What Im Going To Do. I Am Just Shaken And Desturbed At Trying To Roll Against His "High" 16 defence I Will Just Have Knuckles Deal With Him...
-E
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
Well, your example was using Jean Grey, which means that your attempting to hit that 16 defense with, at best, her 7 attack. Either remove the object and let your ranged attackers finish him, or chance rolling a 9 so that essentially the same thing can happen. If you fail that 9, he needs a roll of 7, the exact average, to hurt your Jean Grey, and with BCF it can potentially be devastating.
1: Not My Example. I Did Not Start This Post. My Example Was Just Using A Character Like Hawk Or Hulk Who Have Leap/Climb And Superstrength And Just Picking Up The Object And Moving To One Of The Guys Sides To And Just Sit To Hit Him With The Object.
2: Yes It Is Alot Better Of A Advantage To TK BP Rather Then The Object Cause Your Going To Be Standing Next To Him Anyways, And Sure If You TK The Object You Can Have Someone Shot Him But Im Sure There Would Be More Threats On The Table Then Just Him. Believe Me I Have Seen Plenty Of People Lose Cause They Go After Stupid Stuff Such As Taking Outwit Off The Board But Then They Wind Up Leaving Their Other Characters Open For Assualt By Something Bigger... Im Saying That If Jean Grey Was Next To BP I Would TK Him Rather Then Anything And Stick Him In A Chimney And Watch Him Stealth His Way Out Of That...
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Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
Sorry about that---in the example. (Now it's time for the universal "you") But if you've taken the effort to move Jean Grey up to Black Panther, then chances are you're already itching to get rid of him, so the argument that you have other figures to hit is shaky. You've decided that now you are going to deal with Black Panther and his Stealth.
And just one side note---the designation of the chimney escapes me at the moment, but if you mean to TK a figure onto elevated blocking terrain, then you can't do so unless they have either Leap/Climb or flight.
Not If I Have Line Of Sight To The Edge Of The Building. If I Can Shot Someone There Im Sure I Can TK Someone There.
-E
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
As support for HeroComplex (who is correct, of course):
"Only flying characters and characters with the Leap/Climb power can enter these spaces."
If you don't have flight or Leap/Climb:
you cannot stop moving in this terrain,
you cannot be taxied to this terrain and
you cannot be TKed to this terrain.
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