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The OP asks if batman can be healed beyond his starting line with steal energy from black hand which has already been ruled that he cannot, he says nothing about the oblivion special power. Somewhere along the line people started refering to.the wrong SP. While this interaction may be possible (although I have my doubts as to whether it's inteded), the answer to the question in the first post is absolutely no.
The OP asks if batman can be healed beyond his starting line with steal energy from black hand which has already been ruled that he cannot, he says nothing about the oblivion special power. Somewhere along the line people started refering to.the wrong SP. While this interaction may be possible (although I have my doubts as to whether it's inteded), the answer to the question in the first post is absolutely no.
The OP did not quote the power in question. That is why people were guessing as to which one he was asking about. The Death (Steal Energy power) was already ruled on and no one questioned that ruling.
The Oblivion of Death power was also stated and folks could not agree on if that power worked or not.
I have stated that the Oblivion of Death would in fact work since it is modifying the power that allows Batman to heal past his starting line and is not in of itself a form of healing.
That thread proves nothing in regard to these two figures.
Black Hand is modifying the Healing that is being done by Batman. Batman can have his healing be modified as it would still be his trait that is healing him. So yes he can use Black Hand's ability with his trait to heal 3 clicks at once.
Don't doubt yourself A_B you nailed it the first time.
I thought Vlad's explicit "steal energy is the only way" could be interpreted to exclude things that affect the steal energy. I just realized how crazy it is when I have to analyze the clarifications to the rules on top of the rules themselves.
So I asked that exact question on the rules forum. I see they like you better.
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Quote : Originally Posted by Uberman
When a game hums along, full of action and excitement, it's a barnburner!
When it trudges forward glacially, bogged down by debates over ridiculous rules minutia, it's a Barnstable!
I thought Vlad's explicit "steal energy is the only way" could be interpreted to exclude things that affect the steal energy. I just realized how crazy it is when I have to analyze the clarifications to the rules on top of the rules themselves.
So I asked that exact question on the rules forum. I see they like you better.
LMAO! Don't most people
In all seriousness I think you still have the most posts over there plus it could come down to when and how the question was asked. My last count still had 15 questions of mine that were unanswered so they've only answered me about 50% of the time...
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka
I'm pretty sure Dragon has the Future keyword and Probability Control.
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz
Dragon is correct. Dragon is always correct. Never argue with a Dragon.
In all seriousness I think you still have the most posts over there plus it could come down to when and how the question was asked. My last count still had 15 questions of mine that were unanswered so they've only answered me about 50% of the time...
Did you keep a personal tally or is there a way to check pending posts?
Quote : Originally Posted by jtallday
DEATH: Black Hand can use Steal Energy. When an opposing character is KO'd, heal Black Hand of 1 damage.
This one.
Yes, that power will not heal Batman above click 4.
Sun Tzu Clan Leader
Quote : Originally Posted by Uberman
When a game hums along, full of action and excitement, it's a barnburner!
When it trudges forward glacially, bogged down by debates over ridiculous rules minutia, it's a Barnstable!
Woah woah woah, slow down! What Steal Energy special power?
BH's attack Sp. Grants Steal Energy...That was my original question. Seems Bats can heal 3 only if he copies BH's Speed SP. And didn't I close my thread here...?
"Our mother has been absent ever since we founded Rome; but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home."
BH's attack Sp. Grants Steal Energy...That was my original question. Seems Bats can heal 3 only if he copies BH's Speed SP. And didn't I close my thread here...?
Rules Threads that are current are not closed. Mods will re-open them in case someone has a follow up question.
This is an attempt at keeping multiple threads on the same topic from popping up...
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka
I'm pretty sure Dragon has the Future keyword and Probability Control.
Quote : Originally Posted by jonidschultz
Dragon is correct. Dragon is always correct. Never argue with a Dragon.