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I disagree with @Apophis above, I bought a shield brick and thought the balance between a/b was perfect and enjoyed my pulls immensly, I don't mind the sculpt reuse either. I can understand wanting new and shiny etc but I will always take greater playability/growth of the game per set over new shinyness which is less useable.
I'm also a huge fan of fleshing out the heroclix universe with generics that can fit many teams/universes and bolster many slots.
I personally would love to see some more greek/norse etc mythical generics.
Really cant wait for the demon etc generics as well armies of demonlings and a mephisto etc just sounds awesome!
Maybe they should make the GF's for these sets generic heavy to lesson the load on the main sets roster?
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Maybe they should make the GF's for these sets generic heavy to lesson the load on the main sets roster?
I think putting generics into Gravity Feed isn't an overall bad idea.
But that is just me thinking out loud - throwing generics and various figures like that into slots in a set helps give the set a little more bulk without making them excessive.
But on the opposite end, a Gravity Feed having the figures people want entices them to buy the gravity feed, and then the set itself as well to support those figures. But personally I think the balance is decent where it lays.
I love the Flash Etrigan, but this is a fine version with great attack values for a fair cost.
Unrelated, remember that time Wizkids was like, "we're going to make simpler figures?" Then they were like, "in this set, the common generics will have a never-before-seen mechanic."
I would be amazed if "Unique Modifier" was still appearing on cards three sets hence.
I'm sure it won't be, I imagine it will be in the rulebook.
Moderately sad to see the death of the Gravity Feed, myself, because there were GF versions of "main set" characters I used preferentially every single time. The BM main set Joker, never used. GF? God, yes.
... but 'generics only' in a GF seems like a terrible policy. I do enjoy the occasional "tentpole with modest horde" team.
I don't mind generics. Sometimes I use them, sometimes they sweeten my trades for people who want five or ten of each. It took me for-ev-er to track down enough Dire Wraiths and a Queen to run a proper squad.
Also to note is that there are currently a lot of Mystical keyword pieces with flight and either RS (16 pieces/18 starting lines) or Charge (3; both Capt. Britain and LE Animal Man) to make use of carrying just one.
Under the new Entity/equip rules you can easily expand that pool and still keep theme.
I am in favor of these lower priced support pieces. Good to fill-in on theme teams.
I wonder what we will see in the next coming sets?
There is an Xmen set. They got rid of the keyword "Mutant" didn't they?
Maybe they will bring back a Scientist generic but I feel like we've had those already.
How about a Generic Martial Artist? or Maybe Monster? Robot?
There's been generic Sentinels (Chaos War and DoFP), Trench, Atlanteans, Mermaids, Samuroid (Martial Artist and Robot), Hand Ninjas, Zuvembies, Vampires, Werewolves, Henchmen, and a few more. If anything, I'd like to see modernized OMAC Robots, Checkmate Agents, League of Assassins Assassins, and possibly Skeletons. There's really not a lot of generics that haven't been done yet, and this set looks like it's filling in a lot of gaps.
I am in favor of these lower priced support pieces. Good to fill-in on theme teams.
I wonder what we will see in the next coming sets?
There is an Xmen set. They got rid of the keyword "Mutant" didn't they?
Maybe they will bring back a Scientist generic but I feel like we've had those already.
How about a Generic Martial Artist? or Maybe Monster? Robot?
There was a Researcher generic from Web of Spider-Man, and 2 different Weapon X scientist generics in Deadpool.
"Unique Modifier" is not a never-before-seen mechanic. It's an old mechanic that is being given an official name in order to simplify card text. For example, from John Jameson in the Incredible Hulk set about 4 years ago: "MARRIED(!?) DUO: When a friendly character named She-Hulk is adjacent to John Jameson, they both modify their attack values by +1 if not already modified by this effect."
What has been bolded is what the two words, "Unique Modifier" is condensing. This effect has appeared many times over the years, and it will clearly continue showing up in the future, just with actual keywords to make things consistent.
So if I have two witches does only one get to use Enhancement or can they both use it normally if they're adjacent someone without the Mystics keyword? What if they're adjacent to two different characters?
So if I have two witches does only one get to use Enhancement or can they both use it normally if they're adjacent someone without the Mystics keyword? What if they're adjacent to two different characters?
New rules are always so confusing!
It's not a new rule. The only part that is a "unique modifier" is the part that follows those words (ie, the +1 to attack). Enhacement can be used, and stacked, as normal.
Which is why I think these are amazing pieces.
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I disagree with @Apophis above, I bought a shield brick and thought the balance between a/b was perfect and enjoyed my pulls immensly, I don't mind the sculpt reuse either. I can understand wanting new and shiny etc but I will always take greater playability/growth of the game per set over new shinyness which is less useable.
I'm also a huge fan of fleshing out the heroclix universe with generics that can fit many teams/universes and bolster many slots.
I personally would love to see some more greek/norse etc mythical generics.
Really cant wait for the demon etc generics as well armies of demonlings and a mephisto etc just sounds awesome!
Maybe they should make the GF's for these sets generic heavy to lesson the load on the main sets roster?
My first line was that I'm all for new generics. And i never said i was upset with the Nick Fury set, i just mentioned i heard alot of others disliked it. Please be careful when misquoting me. My only complaint was filling the set with things that could have been done LIKE Nick Fury set. I just remember the company talking way back saying they were going to start making characters that haven't been clixed before a priority with future set. And while they have done it for a few sets in large number, as the clix cast guys stated, they have to throw superman into so many sets cuz they don't think a DC set can sell otherwise. I cleaned their comment up a bit.
This Etrigan/Jason Blood has permanently retired my Experienced version for gameplay purposes.
I liked the Flash set one, but this one has the classic look, an elegant and simple swap mechanic, and a Jason Blood in street clothes rather than a ceremonial snuggie. Plus the option to start as either character. I'm sold - love it!
More cheap mooks are nice, moreso mystically inclined ones.
Common abilities being keyworded to promote simplicity is no different than when M:tG started doing it with things like Haste and Vigilant, etc. Cleans up the text and that's not a bad thing.
Really, really digging this set so far.
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Retirement will continue to happen, and I will continue to ignore it wherever I play.
So if I have two witches does only one get to use Enhancement or can they both use it normally if they're adjacent someone without the Mystics keyword? What if they're adjacent to two different characters?
New rules are always so confusing!
The idea is that the Enhancement works on both. Unfortunately, the wording "Characters can only be modified by one effect of this name," where the "name" is the special damage power, does not convey that.
As the WK preview tells us, "a character can be affected by multiple UNIQUE MODIFIERS as long as each UNIQUE MODIFIER is from a different named effect," therefore, "Unique Modifier" is not acting as the "name" in the above-quoted clause.