It souds like you are saying that you are creating a chain lke this:

Player A Summons Sacred Phoenix

Player B responds with Bottomless Trap Hole #1

Player A has no response

Player B chains Seven Tools of the Bandit to his BTH #1

Player A has no response

Player B chains BTH #2 to STotB (which is a illegal chain link)


If you are saying that you are allowing the chain to resolve, and activating a second BTH (#2) in a new chain, you can't. The last thing to happen is a Trap being destroyed, not a summon.

If you are saying that you are chaining BTH #2 around Seven Tools of the Bandit, as if it wasnt there, to chain to BTH #1, then that is highly illegal, and sounds like you may not fully understand how a chain works.

Yep, things like Bottomless Trap Hole and Torrential Tribute only care about the base effect in the entire chain (the summon). Whatever happened beforehand in the same chain doesn't matter most of the time except for Counter Traps, which do have to be chained directly to a certain card with nothing in between the 2.

Galactic God, if you build a chain like a pile of cards it may be less confusing. When a monster is summoned you respond [not chain] to the summon. Bottomless Trap Hole is Link 1 [the bottom of the pile]. Torrential Tribute is chained to BTH which is Link 2 [second card in the pile]. If another BTH is chained to TT that would be Link 3 [third card in the pile]. If anything else was chained to the second BTH it would be Link 4[the fourth card in the pile], and the players keep adding to the chain[pile] until there is nothing else to chain.

Now when the chain begins to resolve, the card on top of the pile would be the first to resolve and then the one just below it and then the next one under it until you reach the bottom of the pile.

This chain would look like:

1st Bottomless Trap Hole --> Torrential Tribute-->2nd Bottomless Trap Hole

When the chain resolves it would be:

2nd Bottomless Trap Hole--> Torrential Tribute--> 1st Bottomless Trap Hole

I think the main problem I had is that I thought you could not chain BTH to TT or TT to a BTH. I thought they could ONLY be activated in responce to a summoning and that you could not chain the cards that they must be the first thing activated in response to a that summon.

That is where my confussion came from.

I do understand how the spell speeds worked. But the way members of the forum where explaining how this worked it made me think that there was more then one chain starting.

Thanks for all your help guys.

Subtexel,

This is incorrect. If the first card that is activated is responding to the summon, the following cards that are activated in the chain can be cards that are responding to the summon as well, in this situation, Torrential Tribute CAN be chained to Bottomless Trap Hole.