Well, my friend, if you are going to take 2 dmg from the charge attempt, I think the competitiveness takes a steep dive no?

not really, considering that her stats don't really change that much from 2 damage

OneWingedANgel> I disagree on the movement part. First and foremost, OEJ has a 8 movement...that is not slow. Secondly, I have been playing ROTS and DF for a LONggggg time and there are no Artilleries that dual Donar/ Balac cannot take down. Placing fatties isnt a problem, u jus need to support them properly.

Well...maybe the players at my side differ in playing style from yours. usually, we dont see multiple Artilleries often.

I have liked Federick Bo since FFE and I still like him. Keeps his JJ's for a long time, good damage, and fully repairable. You don't want to have seen the look on my opponents face when I repaired him out of salvage for the 3ed time in a game.

Besides him, yes the Liao Targe is a very solid decent mech, I also like Erin Johnson after all this time. She can take the damage and still be able to hit back. 5 clicks in she looses her IT but gains an 11 attack. She's good bang for the buck.

Having played this game since it came out and fielding or playing against almost every mech in production I'd say the best units are One-Eyed Jack and Kendrick Fetladrel. Jack may not have much in the way of color on his dial, but his stats are solid and very brutal on the battlefield and his heat dial is oncredibly forgiving. Put him in water and you have a real monster to deal with. As for Kendrick, at 129pts with 14" range, reactive armor, and AnP with 2 targets changing to 4 damage streak missles is pretty vicious given that it still leaves 321 points for support.

The only things I dont like about the bounty hunter are the fact that He's artilery and chargebait. Yes. Chargebait. Because I'd rather charge him that shoot it out.

OneWingedAngel- Jack has an 8 speed, he is not slow. He is not fast by any standards, but for an assault mech his speed is respectable.

Daishi808- Just because you would "rather" charge the Bounty Hunter than shoot it out, does not mean he is charge bait. After five clicks of damage he is still going strong, even after six he is decent. Unless you are charging him with Barry Segal or something like that you just are not doing enough damage. Besides, anything that does do that kind of damage on a charge is going to be weakened itself when the Hunter strikes back. The only real weakness of this piece is its average range and extremely high point cost.

Janis Nova Cat. How many other mechs sport 14 clicks of life, 10 attack for three clicks, a 14" weapon, 270 arc, 23 defense in hindering, a 3 vent with an awesome heat dial, and a usable speed of 8, for 122 points???? Lets face it, Janis is sick.

- Wraith -

w00t! Wraithtwo, you took the words right out of my mouth. She and Kendrick, as far as I am concerned were the most playable uniques in DA. I still think that Declan will be an unforgiving beast though. Toe to Toe with many assaults like OEJ and Jonah, he will lose, except for the fact that he never really has to get in range of either of them. :grin:

Yuri Mashnovaska. Hands down my favortie, and in my opinion, the best.

I'm with the votes for Janis and OEJ...

The problem with the :^^^: Targe is how freakin' fragile he is. Do three clicks of damage to him and he's severely hampered. Do 5 and he's screwed. And in the 450/3 environment, he no longer counts for Awe alone. I think the 450 rule change hampered him significantly, and I think the new charge rule did him in. My opinion.

I still don't understand the power of janis. Guess I never will.

I'd have to vote for Caden Senn, Joel Nguyen, Eriabee Childs, Skariah Paragon and Joel Brane as my top 'Mechs. Caden, because he's one tough mofo for his points, Joel Nguyen because he's the most stable, and one of the best 'Mechs overall, in the game, and Joel and Skariah because they're just useful little 'Mechs.

Jack, man, Jack. The mech rules, its damaging, armored, and FAST for its size with a good heat dial.

I still think that Stefani Ehli is even better than Arnis, especially now that we are up to a 450 standard game. Remember she is totally repairable in addition to everything else. Just unbelivable. Bart Bradshaw, the :^^: Raider Mk II, and the :^^^: Construction MOD are next in line after Arnis.