Rolling a critical hit does not make a dial good; it means you got lucky. A lot of your love for dials seems to be based on best possible circumstances, not averages.
You don't seem to be using that word correctly. "Broken" means something is game-warpingly powerful, not merely good.

That's not what "negate" means either. It lessens the penalty, but to negate something would mean to cancel it entirely.
And Nemesis doesn't work with the classic horsemen and the ata, because your points won't work out.

That's okay, I'm here for a reason. And, like I said, the only reason I know that rule so well is because of sitting in that Poison Ivy thread trying to figure out what the heck is GOING ON

Hard to do anything while hockey is on let alone making a podcast.

Sigh....the -2 penalty IS negated. There is no longer a -2 penalty. It now becomes a -1 penalty which is something entirely different. If your claiming one is always a factor of two then we have a problem. Their ATA NEGATES the -2penalty...whether you want to admit im right or not.

Terrax had toughness. Famine deals 3 damage. She rolled a critical. Instead of famine only dealing two damage(because of toughness) she dealt three which was enough to ko him. Your ignoring the fact that it was the horsemen that whittled Terrax down to his third to last click in the first place....at that point I could've afforded to wait one more turn to ko him WITHOUT A CRITICAL.

Critical hits ARE NOT a factor of 'luck' there a factor of math and probability.

Your nemesis comment is soley based on opinion so im going to ignore it. Im sorry you guys can't get the best use out of well designed figures...but that doesn't mean you should claim they are not "good". It just means the player isn't "good" or the circumstances were not in your favor. Thank you for trolling and making this so much bigger than it had to be.

Also im still waiting for a list of figures that are less than one hundred points and are better than the horsemen. 18 invulnerability, hypersonic speed, penetrating poison, double action token dealing, power action canceling, insane maneuverability .....all for less than 100 points. Ill be waiting

You are not using the word "negate" properly.

Try using "minimizes" or "detracts from." Since those words actually mean what you're trying to say "negate" means, it'll actually make sense.

Also, Critical Hits are all about luck. Math and probability are the difference between hitting and missing. Doing either critically, there's probability involved, but unless your strategy involves only accomplishing something one time in 36, it's not something that you're planning for.

That's still not what negate means. I can't admit you're right when the rules of the English language say that you're wrong.
You said Terrax had a 19-20 defense. Critical or not, the odds were not in your favor.
Fair enough, but you should probably learn when to use "they're" and "there" before getting too nitpicky about anyone else's word choice.
It's not an opinion; it's basic addition. There are 3 dials for Nemesis, which have point values of 200, 300, and 400. Adding a 1 point ATA to that gives you 201, 301, or 401. The classic Horsemen are 99 points, or 100 with the ATA. Any combination of them and Nemesis with the ATA will be over by 1 point.Did you even read my post? I said they are good, but good does not equal broken.
If I get bored tonight at work, I'll make a list for you.
Yep.

Wow...you guys are going out of your way to argue that highly renowned five star figures ...aren't good. Your arguing against the majority of players here...not me. Two of three horsemen we're tournament favorites for awhile. It suggest that you are arguing JUST to argue. It makes you look silly.

Negate;to cancel out a factor of or take away from. Ignoring a factor of; excluding from initial mentioning. Derived from negating. Sentence:"He is negating the fact that words have multiple, diverse meanings depending on their structure of use within a sentence"

The example sentence was provided by me, and the partial definition was mentioned in the encyclopedia/dictionary of britanica. Subset 1974 reprint.

Please show me where I ever said that the characters aren't good. In fact, I said twice that they are good, but good does not equal broken.

It makes you look silly when you demonstrate that you can't follow a conversation by putting not only words but entire sentences into other people's mouths, just to argue with them for the sake of arguing.

Oh.....so you think there good. Then Ummm......k.....what are we arguing about again?

HE jumped into the argument boat. And YOU chose to jump into the "im siding with the majority to pick on the minority...even though I don't know what's going on. At all"

You don't have a purpose. Your previous post was useless. Please refrain from wasting memory and space on this forum.

That "good" is not the same thing as "broken," that you can't use Nemesis and the classic Horsemen with the ATA to make an even point build, that getting a timely critical hit is not an accurate determination of a character's typical usefulness, and that "lessen" or "reduce" are much more accurate words for your usage than "negate."

You are not a moderator. Please refrain from talking to fellow users as if you were one.

Where is this majority or minority you speak of? And I know enough about what's going on that I didn't need to ask for a refresher...