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I dunno, in a tournament setting, how many people would actually bring a team designed to face this dial? Sure they may be the stuffing out of Hulk, but then may get pummeled in the other rounds. Making a team specifically designed to take out a piece may highlight its flaws, but its also a rather unfair comparison. Look at Cosmic Spidey, he's a monster. Yet in 400 points, I could probably make something specifically designed to beat him.
Most people make teams to handle a broad range of threats. In that case, many wouldn't be prepared for this Hulk and he'd wipe the floor with them.
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I dunno, in a tournament setting, how many people would actually bring a team designed to face this dial? Sure they may be the stuffing out of Hulk, but then may get pummeled in the other rounds. Making a team specifically designed to take out a piece may highlight its flaws, but its also a rather unfair comparison. Look at Cosmic Spidey, he's a monster. Yet in 400 points, I could probably make something specifically designed to beat him.
Most people make teams to handle a broad range of threats. In that case, many wouldn't be prepared for this Hulk and he'd wipe the floor with them.
You bring up good points, which I have taken into consideration. It is correct that making a team specifically designed to take this Hulk out has it's flaws. I have built a few anti-Cosmic Spider-Man teams specifically designed to take out CSM, and they work superbly against CSM, but against other teams they do well in some games, and bad in others. In a tournament setting, most people don't build teams specifically to take down a specific figure. But for me to make a balanced, but playable, Hulk, and make him worth the 528 points, it will take a lot of play testing, so going against these three figures is just one phase of play testing.
I'll take him up against tons of different types of teams, from theme teams, "cheese" teams, stealth teams, HSS teams, etc.
If I can create a 500 point Hulk that can hold his own against other 500 point teams, with a 50/50 chance of winning, I"ll be happy. I don't want to create an unbeatable figure... but an accurate Hulk that represents the character well that plays well and is game balanced.
When I beta test him again I'll post the results and go from there.
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I dunno, in a tournament setting, how many people would actually bring a team designed to face this dial? Sure they may be the stuffing out of Hulk, but then may get pummeled in the other rounds. Making a team specifically designed to take out a piece may highlight its flaws, but its also a rather unfair comparison. Look at Cosmic Spidey, he's a monster. Yet in 400 points, I could probably make something specifically designed to beat him.
Most people make teams to handle a broad range of threats. In that case, many wouldn't be prepared for this Hulk and he'd wipe the floor with them.
Agree with this post.
Test Avengers or Justice League teams against him. Atrocitus and Doomsday are going to bat him around unless you specifically counter them, and if you specifically counter them I think it'd play better as a scenario than a single piece.
Test Avengers or Justice League teams against him. Atrocitus and Doomsday are going to bat him around unless you specifically counter them, and if you specifically counter them I think it'd play better as a scenario than a single piece.
I sure will, I want to take beta test him against various types of teams.
But first, I have to get Hulk feeling like the Hulk.
If Doomsday and Hulk met on the battlefield, it's going to a close fight. Doomsday shouldn't beat the Hulk in a matter of seconds.
Remember these things about the Hulk:
1) He has survived several direct nuclear strikes.
2) The Beyonder even stated that the Hulk's strength is infinite.
3) He conquered the whole world of Sakaar.
4) He brought the whole of Asgard to its knees.
5) He almost killed Thor, and could have, but left to destroy Asgard.
6) Thor stated to the Asgardians, that this was no mere Immortal they were fighting, but the Hulk... he basically just stated that Hulk is a god.
7) Hella stated that even Hel could not contain Hulk, and he would destroy Hel if he remained their.
8) Hulk can survive planet-splitting impacts
and the list goes on and on.
If a Hulk cannot stand toe to toe with Doomsday, that Hulk shouldn't even be made as a Clix.... and this Hulk so far is much more points than that Doomsday.
.... but I still have much beta testing to do. Something that I believe WizKids doesn't do much of.. or we wouldn't have ended up with the HoT Captain America they way he was, or numerous other comic-inaccurate figures we end up with.
Doomsday is pretty much DC's clone of Hulk in many aspects. Their powers and abilities are almost identical. The difference... there has been a prison that has held Doomsday for millennia. No prison of any sort has ever been able to contain the Hulk.
I'm interested to hear your latest playtesting results.
I spent the weekend playtesting 6 custom dials and @ 300 points including a 300 point Superman. 2 of the customs were disappointing and overcosted , the other 4 came out pretty darn good and balanced.