FWIW, we are split as a community. Some people like day one pressure, and some don't.

What's there to talk about if we're not threatening to lynch?

You would be surprised.


Mostly accusations and theorizing about the roles/themes in the game.

PR = Power Role. Any role that's not vanilla and has beneficial effects.

I am confused by your middle paragraph. On the one hand, you say you're Not sure talk makes it harder for baddies" but on the other you say the folks here are collectively "good at targeting low posters" and "most players know to speak up." This suggests to me you do think talking is a good thing because if everyone is talking, a baddie can't skate by in silence.

No lynches happen all the time, even on days other than day one. Though obviously day one is the most common day without a lynch because of the lack of info, and the generally casual D1 atmosphere.

We generally have a majority threshold that must be met for someone to be lynched. As opposed to the plurality thing. This is only about our 3rd or 4th game with plurality voting I believe.

It is totally cool to talk and try to read people on D1, but actual pressure, and lynches are pretty rare. Also we do not use the finger of suspicion thing I've seen on the all star board. Not sure if you guys are used to that.

This'll be a huge cultural difference for MP and I. For reference, here is a game the two of us played in last month. All roles are publicly available from the start, so we don't need to speculate on such things (usually. It's also not uncommon for some roles to be kept secret), and like I've said, role claiming is strictly illegal in our community.

I take "accusations" to mean "threatening to lynch", for what it's worth.

If this is the case, why are we worried about lynching power roles? That is going to happen one way or another.

Hello. I wouldn't like to lynch you at the moment. I put my vote on adamical for putting his vote on you. Do you have any thoughts on either of us in this game?

AFAIK, the main proponents of D1 pressure are JoH and Cbob. Is there anyone else?

To further clarify, when I say "no lynches happen" I am not talking about people voting for "no lynch," but instead that no one reaches the majority threshold on lynching, which while not relevant to this game apparently, is common elsewhere.

What do you mean by "finger of suspicion"? I may know what you are talking about, only I am familiar with it under a different name.

I won't object too much to a No Lynch today if that is not uncommon here.

Meh, I'm usually bad at theorizing this early. But if I had to say one thing, it would be this:

In my opinion, any mod who makes a (relatively) brand new player town unfriendly right off the bat is putting way too much pressure on them.

Not to say it wouldn't happen, it just seems like it'd be too much.

Ah, got it. As others have said, in mostly every game here everyone has a power role. I actually don't think I've played a game where there were completely powerless roles.

Yes, that's more or less what I said. I suppose what I really meant was that day one talk is not a good gauge for catching scum, since scum are going to know how to play a day one phase. I wasn't really saying that day one talk is good or bad, just that it doesn't necessarily effect the mafia either way, as they typically know that staying silent=death. So, yes, day one pressure would be good if we knew who we were targeting was mafia, but we're just as likely to hit/expose the cop or reverse tracker or some other important info gatherer.

Honestly, I imagine that for most of us here having all roles revealed is a bit easy mode because we're used to no roles being know and any alleged role being possible, and many people lying about their roles.

An accusation has no definitive term outside of it's general application. A threat to lynch is an accusation, a vote for someone could be an accusation, or a statement like "I think Sloonei is scum" are all examples of accusations.

That sort of narrow view is a little like saying we're all going to die why not just commit mass suicide.

In general the town does not want to lynch important roles (the most important of which, in terms of hiding from mafia, are the Cop, Doctor, and Vigilante - in no specific order).

The mafia and SK on the other hand want to find these roles to remove them, mess with them, or neutralize them.

So the goal is to find the scummers (general term for SK/Cult/Mafia) without outting the town. Of course that rarely happens, but that is what most of the town aligned folks are trying to do.

Every once and awhile, someone will mod a vanilla game where there are no "power roles", but as Roy stated, in almost every game everyone has roles.

I kind of prefer it that way as I feel it's more engaging/interesting when everyone has something that they can do at night (or during the day in some cases).

No one is good or bad at theorizing! You have your power of observation and all you can do is use it.
Also I am not a brand new player, for the record. Just new to this site. I've been playing mafia for years, and played with Jackofhearts this summer in the Champs tournament.

I understand the sentiment of this thought, though. I wouldn't want to rule me out as a suspect just because I'm new here (and I'm used to roles being mostly randomized), but I do not think this is an invalid thought.

Anything to say about adamical?