I just read Kingdom Come for the first time, so let me say one thing up front; I love the story like crazy, I thought it was SO good!

I really couldn't put it down and Ross' art was (& always is) SO good!

But I also have to say that I'm not impressed with the Magog clix we got! I mean, he was in only a handful of panels first of all. Secondly, I thought that this was the guy who took out Kansas, but that only happened b/c he BROUGHT some of the wrong people to mess with the Parasite and together they blew up Kansas without very much of Magog's help at all; so so much for that.

Also, I can see why they made him Supes' AE, but I think that a good argument could be made that he was more of a primary antagonist to Supes, and that perhaps Billy should've been his AE. This wasn't really a problem, but I wish that the guy who was his AE could have appeared with him a little more. I mean, I think the only time they actually engage, is when Magog throws his little temper tantrum and blasts at Supes (who doesn't move) and Supes doesn't do anything back. Some enemies!

Don't get me wrong, I really did like the Magog character! I mean, how could you not at least respect someone who in a half of a page (of blasting Joker) could eliminate half a century of Batman's purpose. He was pretty bad-@$$ looking too!

My only gripe, is that I thought that since we got this really cool piece, that he was actually a prevalent character in the story, but it turns out he was just this rebel 'hero' who set things in motion. And we never see him in battle (I don't think) so its a shame!

Hey, maybe in Legacy we'll get a KC Kid Flash or KC Aquaman. . . . what. . . they were in the story too.

Perhaps Magog killing multiple versions of Superman is enough to make hime Supes' arch-enemy?

Hint: Kingdom Come isn't the only place he's shown up.

What other comics did Magog (Not his son or whatever it was Gog) appeared in?

I only know him from Kingdom Come, too. What else is he in?

Yes! I'm not alone.

read recent issues of action comics for a great throw down between gog and the man o' steel

What is Gog to Magog?

That doesn't count at all. All that is, is Chuck Austin not being to write a good comic he has to steal characters and such from good comics.

Magog is sort of Gog's apprentice.

I didn't mind the recent Gog story though, Supes needs someone to slap him around!

Oi! Magog's importance to KC is metaphorical, not literal. He's Superman's AE but not all conflicts have to end in a knock down drag out. When Magog realized he was wrong it hit him harder than any punch Superman could have thrown.

Magog was in The Kingdom, the sequel to Kingdom Come. I stopped reading it after the first few pages its that awful.

It seemed to deal more with Magog and Superman though.

Magog was in other books too. I forget which ones.. But they certainly weren't very good books..


In a few frames magog was involved in the action. You have to look carefully. During the last battle in KC, you can see magog walking around in a few pannels, and he rips the arm off a batsentry.

Whoops. My bad. Forgot that it was "Gog" that did the super-killings. Geez, I don't know how I could have mistaken "Magog" for "Gog". :-)

Gog is in The Kingdom. Magog is barely in it and, arguably, isn't in it. B/c they have the same helmet and staff people get Gog (the master) and Magog (the "son"/apprentice) confused. Gog is who went back through time killing all the Supermen. He's the one who can fly. And he's the one who's been in all the other stories, most recently the Austen stories from Action Comics.

If you just read The Kingdom #1 and #2, it's a fine story and explains Hypertime and adds some depth to Kingdom Come (not that it needed it). Just don't read the stories that take place inbetween The Kingdom #1 and #2. Those are terrible.

Consider also, that Magog was the leading element of the social anarchy that super-heroes represented in the Kingdom Come setting, and of the meaningless tripe that was littering our comic books in place of characterization, development, consideration and thought in the time frame when KC was published. Haven't you ever noticed what 1990s Marvel character Magog strongly resembles?

Given that Superman's role in KC was of a leader, an inspiration, a hero that gave meaning to the works and efforts of other heroes - the archenemy status between the two of them is all too appropriate.

--wyld