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I need something that can give me the precise origin of the team. I keep looking at web sites with lots of history, but with all the Ret-Con stuff (Is it me, or is the JSA and it's members the most affected by the Crisis on Infinite Earths events?), it get very convoluted and confusing real fast.
So is there a concise resource that I can use to study their Post Crisis history? Comics, websites, crystal balls, the helm of Nabu-whatever. I just need something!
Your help in this matter is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Goofy & ambiguous, but true. Current writers of the comic (one I read monthly, BTW) have used the original Crisis as a tool only as needed -- in other words: if you read the DC Comics Archive Edition of All-Star Comics, then those stories still happened, for the most part. Only when they conflict with today's continuity are they rewired (retconned, if you will) to obsolescence.
One of the smartest things to come out of it was changing the original Wonder Woman (who was in the JSA) to Hyppolita, WW's momma.
Pretty cool stuff -- I read the monthly, and I own some of the ASC Archives as well. They are currently working on tying more of the two histories together in the monthly book (a story called "JSA/JSA" -- original, I know...)
To better explain gaps in continuity, DC used Zero Hour (1994) to effectively "zap" the whole JSA out of "history" after WWII. They used the House Un-American Affairs Committee (HUAC) as a springboard for that event -- after they were forced to remove their masks, they were pulled from history by some mysterious time event, then plugged back into history, de-aged (in some cases), etc., etc.
Pickup the ZH trade, as well as one of the ASC Archives for some good reading.
Charlie
(Man, I sound like a junkie...)
PS - the DC Encyclopedia is a great resource, BTW. It's not a treatise by any means, but good, and fairly up-to-date (includes some Identity Crisis facts).
Wasn't the house on unamerican actibities always a part of the story ... I didtincyly remember it being reference in the Crisis of Infinite Earths Companion book History of the DC Universe.
Further I thought that some characters were deaged as a result of Zero hour along wit Ray Palmer the Atom who then joined the Teen Titans as a Teenager.
A few others are just aging slower right like Alan Scott who is possibly not really alive in a natural sense anyway as he is suspected of being composed of magic energy.
Am I even half right about any of this please tell me where I'm wrong.
- T.
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Am I even half right about any of this please tell me where I'm wrong.
- T.
The house of Unamerican Activities is a retcon, but I couldn't tell you how far back it was brought in. It was basically put in place to explain why there was a lack of heroes between the (ever growing) time gap of the Golden and Modern Age.
Atom II was deaged in Zero Hour. but some JSA memebers (Sandman, Hourman, Dr. Mid-Night, Atom I) were aged to their "real" ages by Extant (resulting in the deaths of MidNight, Hourman and Atom).
The JSA had been kept young for years because of their exposure to the chronal energies of Ian Krakull (see All-Star Squadron) and by their tim ein Limbo (see Last Days of the JSA and Armageddon: Inferno).
Some members were immune to Extant's aging. Notably: Flash (Speed Force), Green Lantern (Green Flame) and Wildcat (nine lives). Hawkman's body was destroyed/merged with Katar's at the same time, but he's back with a new body now.
And of course, a recent story arc showed how Hourman escaped his "death" in Zero Hour.
The HUAC was a pre-Zero Hour "story" for the JSA. It's a post-Crisis explanation as to why some of the heroes stopped being involved in the world prior to the Silver Age (there was also a bit of adjusting as to the Shade/Thinker/etc. trapping some of the members in "Limbo" for the Flash of Two Worlds retcon). I also keep thinking that "Batman vs. the JSA" involved the HUAC (though the JSA was "exonerated" in that tale, it was a later one that led to their disbanding).
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