This match is part of a series of matches to determine which universe is truly superior- Marvel or DC. For details of the series, and to join the fun, come over to the Ultimate Marvel vs. DC thread

Here are the teams for this thread, which will be played by clixhunter and myself. Feel free to give advice, however please fo not be offended if we opt not to take it, since we all play differently.

Here are the teams:

Sinister Syndicate
84 V Venom
87 V Carnage
58 V Scorpion
50 V Lizard
21 V Typhoid Mary
56 V Constrictor
34 E Boomarang
43 V Kingpin
73 LE Hobgoblin
46 E Blizzard
32 E Whirlwind
43 V Bullseye
50 E Mr Hyde
74 E Sandman
66 V Doctor Octopus (CT)
46 V Calypso
80 V Kraven
122 V Rhino
68 V Mysterio
55 V Electro
119 V Green Goblin (FF)
53 V Vulture (FF)
68 V Shocker
10 LE Knuckles
14 LE Joey The Snake
3 B J Jonah Jameson
11 R Henchman
14 E Henchman
17 V Henchman
1499 points


VERSUS

Batman Enemies
136 V Blockbuster
108 V Ra’s Al Ghul*
10 *F w/Lazarus Pit
100 V Joker (Leg)
85 V Bane
80 V Killer Croc
77 V Mr. Freeze
75 U Hush
68 V CatwomaN
65 V Scarecrow (Unl)
61 V Two-Face
58 LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler)
53 LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter)
50 V Clayface III
49 LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn)
49 V Poison Ivy
46 E Talia
44 V Cheshire
43 V Penguin
41 R Deadshot
38 E Man-bat (Icons Starter)
38 LE sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva)
14 V Criminal (Bob)
14 V Criminal (Doug)
12 E Criminal (Josh)
12 E Criminal (Earl)
10 R Criminal (Ken)
10 R Criminal (Patty)
11 V Lackey (Neil)
11 V Lackey (Dan)
9 E Lackey (Laurence)
9 E Lackey (Tony)
7 R Lackey (Shaun)
7 R Lackey (Luke)
1500 points exactly

Since it's 1500 points, well be using 5 objects each. Initiative winner recieves three heavies, loser recieves three lights.

My initiative roll: 7 (2+5)

Also note that Story posts will be put in the Main Showdown thread rather than here, so if you enjoy watching good story matches, go subscribe to that thread.

my initiative roll: 5 (3,2)

Your map choice my friend.

just getting the names for the generics and preparing for the placement


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Sinister Syndicate
V Venom
V Carnage
V Scorpion
V Lizard
V Typhoid Mary
V Constrictor
E Boomarang
V Kingpin
LE Ned Leeds (Hobgoblin)
E Blizzard
E Whirlwind
V Bullseye
E Mr Hyde
E Sandman
V Doctor Octopus (CT)
V Calypso
V Kraven
V Rhino
V Mysterio
V Electro
V Green Goblin (FF)
V Vulture (FF)
V Shocker
LE Knuckles
LE Joey The Snake
B J Jonah Jameson
R Henchman (Sam)
E Henchman (Merry)
V Henchman (Pippin)

Recap



VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Blockbuster
V Ra’s Al Ghul*
V Joker (Leg)
V Bane
V Killer Croc
V Mr. Freeze
U Hush
V CatwomaN
V Scarecrow (Unl)
V Two-Face
LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler)
LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter)
V Clayface III
LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn)
V Poison Ivy
E Talia
V Cheshire
V Penguin
R Deadshot
E Man-bat (Icons Starter)
LE sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva)
V Criminal (Bob)
V Criminal (Doug)
E Criminal (Josh)
E Criminal (Earl)
R Criminal (Ken)
R Criminal (Patty)
V Lackey (Neil)
V Lackey (Dan)
E Lackey (Laurence)
E Lackey (Tony)
R Lackey (Shaun)
R Lackey (Luke)

*F w/Lazarus Pit


Recap


Heavies:
Lights:

Tough decision! Given that you've got a lot more flyers and leap/climbers than me, an idoor map is definitely preferable. But I still want one fairly open for my Perplex and Outwit....hmmm.

I'll go with the Star Labs map that's on my site and #########. It's a fun map and should make for an interesting battle.

Ha ha. Hcrealms doesn't like C abal City

Ill take the bottom Ros W/X



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Sinister Syndicate (Bottom of map rows W/X)
V Venom
V Carnage
V Scorpion
V Lizard
V Typhoid Mary
V Constrictor
E Boomarang
V Kingpin
LE Ned Leeds (Hobgoblin)
E Blizzard
E Whirlwind
V Bullseye
E Mr Hyde
E Sandman
V Doctor Octopus (CT)
V Calypso
V Kraven
V Rhino
V Mysterio
V Electro
V Green Goblin (FF)
V Vulture (FF)
V Shocker
LE Knuckles
LE Joey The Snake
B J Jonah Jameson
R Henchman (Sam)
E Henchman (Merry)
V Henchman (Pippin)

Recap



VERSUS

Batman Enemies (Top of Map Rows A/B)
V Blockbuster
V Ra’s Al Ghul*
V Joker (Leg)
V Bane
V Killer Croc
V Mr. Freeze
U Hush
V CatwomaN
V Scarecrow (Unl)
V Two-Face
LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler)
LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter)
V Clayface III
LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn)
V Poison Ivy
E Talia
V Cheshire
V Penguin
R Deadshot
E Man-bat (Icons Starter)
LE sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva)
V Criminal (Bob)
V Criminal (Doug)
E Criminal (Josh)
E Criminal (Earl)
R Criminal (Ken)
R Criminal (Patty)
V Lackey (Neil)
V Lackey (Dan)
E Lackey (Laurence)
E Lackey (Tony)
R Lackey (Shaun)
R Lackey (Luke)

*F w/Lazarus Pit


Recap


Heavies:
Lights:

I just realised two things. First of all, we forgot to use an Online dice roller for initiative. I'm so used to playing with honour rolling that it didn't even occur to me. We'll have to remember to do that from now on though.

Secondly, I have ONE more figure than what fits inside the standard starting area. I guess I'll just have to put one in the 4 square spaces on one of the sides of the map. Seems like the logical thing to do.

Phew...placing this many figures was harder than I thought. I've rearranged them so that they're in the order they are starting in:

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Sinister Syndicate (Bottom of map rows W/X)
V Venom
U Carnage
V Scorpion
V Lizard
V Typhoid Mary
V Constrictor
E Boomarang
V Kingpin
LE Ned Leeds (Hobgoblin)
E Blizzard
E Whirlwind
V Bullseye
E Mr Hyde
E Sandman
V Doctor Octopus (CT)
V Calypso
V Kraven
V Rhino
V Mysterio
V Electro
V Green Goblin (FF)
V Vulture (FF)
V Shocker
LE Knuckles
LE Joey The Snake
B J Jonah Jameson
R Henchman (Sam)
E Henchman (Merry)
V Henchman (Pippin)


VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Joker (Leg) B5
R Lackey (Shaun) A5
V Lackey (Neil) B6
R Criminal (Ken) A6
LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler) B7
V Criminal (Bob) A7
V Ra’s Al Ghul* B8
E Talia A8
LE Sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva) B9
E Criminal (Josh) A9
V Scarecrow (Unl) B10
E Criminal (Earl) A10
E Man-bat (Icons Starter) B11
V Killer Croc A11
V Catwoman B12
V Criminal (Doug) A12
V Bane B13
U Hush A13
V Lackey (Dan) B14
V Two-Face A14
R Lackey (Luke) B15
R Criminal (Patty) A15
V Mr. Freeze B16
LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn) A16
LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter) B17
V Poison Ivy A17
V Penguin B18
E Lackey (Laurence) A18
V Clayface III B19
E Lackey (Tony) A19
V Blockbuster B20
V Cheshire A20
R Deadshot B21

*F w/Lazarus Pit

Heavies: E21, I16, H15
Lights: H9, F13

i have an advantage there, having played big games like this before. i was used to setting up. already had decided how id do it..just needed the map.

Good Luck Wakanda

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Sinister Syndicate (Bottom of map rows W/X)
R Henchman (Sam) W5
V Green Goblin (FF) X5
V Lizard W6
V Venom X6
E Sandman W7
V Mysterio X7
V Constrictor W8
E Blizzard X8
E Whirlwind W9
V Vulture (FF) W10
V Scorpion W11
B J Jonah Jameson X11
LE Knuckles W12
V Bullseye X12
V Doctor Octopus (CT) W13
V Electro X13
V Henchman (Pippin) W14
V Kingpin X14
V Typhoid Mary W15
V Calypso X15
V Rhino W16
E Boomarang W17
LE Ned Leeds (Hobgoblin) X17
E Mr Hyde W18
V Kraven X18
U Carnage W19
V Shocker X19
E Henchman (Merry) W20
LE Joey The Snake X20

VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Joker (Leg) B5
R Lackey (Shaun) A5
V Lackey (Neil) B6
R Criminal (Ken) A6
LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler) B7
V Criminal (Bob) A7
V Ra’s Al Ghul* B8
E Talia A8
LE Sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva) B9
E Criminal (Josh) A9
V Scarecrow (Unl) B10
E Criminal (Earl) A10
E Man-bat (Icons Starter) B11
V Killer Croc A11
V Catwoman B12
V Criminal (Doug) A12
V Bane B13
U Hush A13
V Lackey (Dan) B14
V Two-Face A14
R Lackey (Luke) B15
R Criminal (Patty) A15
V Mr. Freeze B16
LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn) A16
LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter) B17
V Poison Ivy A17
V Penguin B18
E Lackey (Laurence) A18
V Clayface III B19
E Lackey (Tony) A19
V Blockbuster B20
V Cheshire A20
R Deadshot B21

*F w/Lazarus Pit

Heavies: E21, I16, H15, V16, V18
Lights: H9, F13, T12, T13, N5



Let The Games Commence

Good luck to you too. Looking forward to playing a fun game.

Oh, and just in case you didn't realise...the big Star Labs logo is just a logo. It's not hindering terrain or water terrain, only clear terrain.

Here we go....(Holds breath)...

Turn 1/16

Leadership rolls: Hush=2, Penguin=3. Oh well.

1) Blockbuster grabs the Heavy from E21 and moves to J20.

2) Harley Quinn moves to G23.

3) Clayface III moves to K23.

4) Cheshire moves to I23.

5) Deadshot moves to H22.

6) Hush moves to H16 (hiding behind objects but not on them).

7) Mr. Freeze moves to F13 -stealthed on the Light Object.

8) Two-Face moves to G11.

9) R Criminal (Patty) moves to F10.

10) R Lackey (Luke) moves to F11.

11) Ra's Al Ghul moves to G7 (hiding behind Object, but not on it)

12) Talia moves to H8.

13) E Criminal (Josh) moves to D10.

14) R Lackey (Shaun) moves to E9.

Free) Riddler Perplexes Lady Shiva's speed up to 9.

15) Sandra Wu-San/Lady Shiva moves to J3.

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Sinister Syndicate (Bottom of map rows W/X)
R Henchman (Sam) W5
V Green Goblin (FF) X5
V Lizard W6
V Venom X6
E Sandman W7
V Mysterio X7
V Constrictor W8
E Blizzard X8
E Whirlwind W9
V Vulture (FF) W10
V Scorpion W11
B J Jonah Jameson X11
LE Knuckles W12
V Bullseye X12
V Doctor Octopus (CT) W13
V Electro X13
V Henchman (Pippin) W14
V Kingpin X14
V Typhoid Mary W15
V Calypso X15
V Rhino W16
E Boomarang W17
LE Ned Leeds (Hobgoblin) X17
E Mr Hyde W18
V Kraven X18
U Carnage W19
V Shocker X19
E Henchman (Merry) W20
LE Joey The Snake X20

VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Joker (Leg) B5
R Lackey (Shaun) E9 @
V Lackey (Neil) B6
R Criminal (Ken) A6
LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler) B7
V Criminal (Bob) A7
V Ra’s Al Ghul* G9 @
E Talia H8 @
LE Sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva) J3 @
E Criminal (Josh) D10 @
V Scarecrow (Unl) B10
E Criminal (Earl) A10
E Man-bat (Icons Starter) B11
V Killer Croc A11
V Catwoman B12
V Criminal (Doug) A12
V Bane B13
U Hush H16 @
V Lackey (Dan) B14
V Two-Face G11 (Mastermind onto Luke then Patty) @
R Lackey (Luke) F11 @
R Criminal (Patty) F10 @
V Mr. Freeze F13 (stealthed) @
LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn) G23 @
LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter) B17
V Poison Ivy A17
V Penguin B18
E Lackey (Laurence) A18
V Clayface III K23 @
E Lackey (Tony) A19
V Blockbuster J20 @
V Cheshire I23 @
R Deadshot H22 @

*F w/Lazarus Pit

Heavies: In Blockbuster's hands, I16, H15, V16, V18
Lights: H9, F13, T12, T13, N5

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free: Leadership- Kingpin rolls 1

free: Carnage perplex's 'Merry's' move +1 to 7

1. E Henchman (Merry) moves to U24

2. Joey The Snake moves to T21

3. V Henchman (Pippin) moves to Q16

4. R Henchman (Sam) moves to Q3

5. JJJ moves to R7

6. Knuckles moves to Q15 @

7. Mr Hyde will pick up the Heavy Object in V18 and move to Q20

8. Electro will pick up Bullseye and fly to T12. setting Bullseye down on T13 (both on objects)

9. Kingpin will walk over to T16

10. Calypso to U15

11. Typhoid Mary to R15

12. Doc Ock to U13

free: Venom perplex's Green Goblins move +1 to 11

13. Green Goblin will grab up Venom and RS to R2, setting Venom down in S2 and blowing a hole in the wall at M2/L2

14. Mysterio will walk to Q5

15. Lizard will leap/climb to N2



Sinister Syndicate (Bottom of map rows W/X)
R Henchman (Sam) Q3 @
V Green Goblin (FF) R2 @
V Lizard N2 @
V Venom S2 Taxid
E Sandman W7
V Mysterio Q5 @
V Constrictor W8
E Blizzard X8
E Whirlwind W9
V Vulture (FF) W10
V Scorpion W11
B J Jonah Jameson R7 @
LE Knuckles Q15 @
V Bullseye T13 taxid
V Doctor Octopus (CT) U13 @
V Electro T12 @
V Henchman (Pippin) Q16 @
V Kingpin T16 @
V Typhoid Mary R15 @
V Calypso U15 @
V Rhino W16
E Boomarang W17
LE Ned Leeds (Hobgoblin) X17
E Mr Hyde Q20 WHO @
V Kraven X18
U Carnage W19
V Shocker X19
E Henchman (Merry) U24 @
LE Joey The Snake T21 @

VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Joker (Leg) B5
R Lackey (Shaun) E9 @
V Lackey (Neil) B6
R Criminal (Ken) A6
LE Eddie Nashton (Riddler) B7
V Criminal (Bob) A7
V Ra’s Al Ghul* G9 @
E Talia H8 @
LE Sandra Wu-San (Lady Shiva) J3 @
E Criminal (Josh) D10 @
V Scarecrow (Unl) B10
E Criminal (Earl) A10
E Man-bat (Icons Starter) B11
V Killer Croc A11
V Catwoman B12
V Criminal (Doug) A12
V Bane B13
U Hush H16 @
V Lackey (Dan) B14
V Two-Face G11 (Mastermind onto Luke then Patty) @
R Lackey (Luke) F11 @
R Criminal (Patty) F10 @
V Mr. Freeze F13 (stealthed) @
LE Dr. Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn) G23 @
LE Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter) B17
V Poison Ivy A17
V Penguin B18
E Lackey (Laurence) A18
V Clayface III K23 @
E Lackey (Tony) A19
V Blockbuster J20 WHO @
V Cheshire I23 @
R Deadshot H22 @

*F w/Lazarus Pit

Heavies: In Blockbuster's hands, I16, H15, V16, In Hydes hands
Lights: H9, F13, T12, T13, N5

Rubble: M2/L2


and there ya have the first turn...casualties: a section of wall

Hey mate, I found one teensy weensy error in your moves. Your E Henchman has a speed value of 6 and started in hindering, but you moved him 4 squares. I'm going to assume that you'll want to move him just back one space to V23. If I'm wrong, feel free to re-do that action and then I'll check if I want to change anything about my turn, although at this point I doubt it.

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Free: Leadership rolls: Hush=4, Penguin=1

1. V Criminal (Bob) to F4.

2. V Lackey (Neil) to F6.

3. R Criminal (Ken) to D6.

Free: Riddler perplexes The Joker's speed up to 12.

4. The Joker Leap/Climbs to I1.

Free: The Joker outwit's Lizard's Leap/Climb

5. Riddler moves to F5.

6. Man-Bat picks up Killer Croc and flies to J6, placing Croc in I5.

7. Poison Ivy moves to E13.

8. E Criminal (Earl) moves to F15.

9. Penguin moves to E17.

10. E Lackey (Laurence) moves to E18.

11. Bane moves to K19.

12. Scarecrow moves to I17.

13. V Criminal (Doug) moves to H17.

14. Mad Hatter moves to F23.

15. E Lackey (Tony) moves to E19.

16. V Lackey (Dan) moves to G14.

Sinister Syndicate
R Henchman (Sam) Q3 @
V Green Goblin (FF) R2 @
V Lizard N2 @
V Venom S2 Taxid
E Sandman W7
V Mysterio Q5 @
V Constrictor W8
E Blizzard X8
E Whirlwind W9
V Vulture (FF) W10
V Scorpion W11
B J Jonah Jameson R7 @
LE Knuckles Q15 @
V Bullseye T13 taxid
V Doctor Octopus (CT) U13 @
V Electro T12 @
V Henchman (Pippin) Q16 @
V Kingpin T16 @
V Typhoid Mary R15 @
V Calypso U15 @
V Rhino W16
E Boomerang W17
LE Hobgoblin (Ned Leeds) X17
E Mr Hyde Q20 WHO @
V Kraven X18
U Carnage W19
V Shocker X19
E Henchman (Merry) V23 @ *here he is!
LE Joey The Snake T21 @

VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Joker (Leg) I1 @
R Lackey (Shaun) E9
V Lackey (Neil) F6 @
R Criminal (Ken) D6 @
LE Riddler (Eddie Nashton) F5 @
V Criminal (Bob) F4 @
V Ra’s Al Ghul* G9
E Talia H8
LE Lady Shiva (Sandra Wu-San) J3
E Criminal (Josh) D10
V Scarecrow (Unl) I17 @
E Criminal (Earl) F15 @
E Man-bat (Icons Starter) J6 @
V Killer Croc I5
V Catwoman B12
V Criminal (Doug) H17 @
V Bane K19 @
U Hush H16
V Lackey (Dan) G14 @
V Two-Face G11 (MM: Luke then Patty)
R Lackey (Luke) F11
R Criminal (Patty) F10
V Mr. Freeze F13 (stealthed)
LE Harley Quinn (Dr. Harleen Quinzel) G23
LE Mad Hatter (Jervis Tetch) F23 @
V Poison Ivy E13 @
V Penguin E17 (MM: Laurence) @
E Lackey (Laurence) E18 @
V Clayface III K23
E Lackey (Tony) E19 @
V Blockbuster J20 w/HO
V Cheshire I23
R Deadshot H22

*F w/Lazarus Pit

Heavies: In Blockbuster's hands, I16, H15, V16, In Hyde's hands
Lights: H9, F13, T12, T13, N5

Rubble: M2/L2


Recap: Lizard got sticky feet. That's about all.

didnt notice that Carnage perplexed his move +1 did ya? check the very first thing I did...

Ill have a move up tonight. Because Im setting the map up each time and using real figs (say it isnt so... ) I can only do turns in the evening when i have enough time for that.

Oops my bad. Forgot Carnage has Perplex. Never really made much sense to me.

No worries on waiting. I've got mine all set up as well, and it's taking up the middle of the floor in my room.

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skipped the leadership with Kingpin...no need this round

1. Sandman will slide to O3

2. Blizzard will skate to P4

3. Constrictor will run to Q4

4. Whirlwind will whirl to L7

5. Vulture will pick up Scorpion and fly to M6. placing Scorpion in N6

6. Ned Leeds will pick up Boomarang and fly to R17. placing Boomarang in R18

7. Rhino will pick up the HO in V16 and amble to R16

8. Shocker will run to W23 using RS he'll blow down the wall at W22/U22

9. Kraven will run to U22 in stealth in the rubble

10. Carnage will Leap and Climb to T18

11. Venom will Leap and Climb to T6


Sinister Syndicate
R Henchman (Sam) Q3
V Green Goblin (FF) R2
V Lizard N2
V Venom T6 @
E Sandman O3 @
V Mysterio Q5
V Constrictor Q4 @
E Blizzard P4 @
E Whirlwind L7 @
V Vulture (FF) M6 @
V Scorpion N6 taxid
B J Jonah Jameson R7
LE Knuckles Q15
V Bullseye T13
V Doctor Octopus (CT) U13
V Electro T12
V Henchman (Pippin) Q16
V Kingpin T16
V Typhoid Mary R15
V Calypso U15
V Rhino R16 WHO @
E Boomerang R18 taxid
LE Hobgoblin (Ned Leeds) R17 @
E Mr Hyde Q20 WHO
V Kraven U22 *stealth*
U Carnage T18 @
V Shocker W23 @
E Henchman (Merry) U24
LE Joey The Snake T21

VERSUS

Batman Enemies
V Joker (Leg) I1 @
R Lackey (Shaun) E9
V Lackey (Neil) F6 @
R Criminal (Ken) D6 @
LE Riddler (Eddie Nashton) F5 @
V Criminal (Bob) F4 @
V Ra’s Al Ghul* G9
E Talia H8
LE Lady Shiva (Sandra Wu-San) J3
E Criminal (Josh) D10
V Scarecrow (Unl) I17 @
E Criminal (Earl) F15 @
E Man-bat (Icons Starter) J6 @
V Killer Croc I5
V Catwoman B12
V Criminal (Doug) H17 @
V Bane K19 @
U Hush H16
V Lackey (Dan) G14 @
V Two-Face G11 (MM: Luke then Patty)
R Lackey (Luke) F11
R Criminal (Patty) F10
V Mr. Freeze F13 (stealthed)
LE Harley Quinn (Dr. Harleen Quinzel) G23
LE Mad Hatter (Jervis Tetch) F23 @
V Poison Ivy E13 @
V Penguin E17 (MM: Laurence) @
E Lackey (Laurence) E18 @
V Clayface III K23
E Lackey (Tony) E19 @
V Blockbuster J20 w/HO
V Cheshire I23
R Deadshot H22

*F w/Lazarus Pit

Heavies: In Blockbuster's hands, I16, H15, in Rhinos hands, In Hyde's hands
Lights: H9, F13, T12, T13, N5

Rubble: M2/L2, W22/L22


and back to the escapees of arkham