Build A team around Magog; only rules:

• No Uniques besides Magog
• No Fortitude
• Must be able to fight Red Icons Supes
• May Include Sentinel
• May be 300 or 400 points

There is a big difference between fighting Vet Supes and defeating him.

400 Points
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U Magog + Swingline 219
R Black Panther + Protected + Thunderbolts 40
R Lockjaw + Double-Time 29
E Black Knight + Thunderbolts 83
V Destiny 29

* Thunderbolting Mystics TA

Lockjaw carries Black Panther into position to OW Supes. Ditto with Black Knight and Destiny. Magog charges through hindering at full throttle. Alternate carrying Magog, Destiny and Black Panther.

Then again, it all depends on who V Supes has on his team...

One quick thought:

U. Magog + Protected = 217
E. Batman (Icons Starter) + Protected = 55
R. Lockjaw = 24

Total = 296

With the extra 4 points, you could add a pog or two if you like.

The idea is that in a 300 point game, Superman isn't likely to be equipped with Fortitude--hence the Outwit for his HSS; Exploit Weakness for his Impervious.

If he does have Fortitude, he won't have much else to speak of--and if he wants to HSS attack you, Protect out of it if you miss Impervious and then base him with Lockjaw next turn, forcing him to either Push or take another crack at your Imperviousness.

Of course, you could also use On-Card Oracle with Lockjaw and Magog, but I like having another mobile character out there--especially one as capable as Starter Bats can be.

Good luck...

Just hope that your opponent doesn't switch out V Supes for NGN Supes + Shellhead, Icons Starter Bats + Nanobots. Both with ICWO. 300 points o' nasty.

To fight Vet Supes I believe that you NEED TK. Carrying Magog next to Supes does not help unless he's pushed. If he only has 1 action on him he will most definitely push, and smack for atleast 5, and take off. You NEED the first strike capabilities that TK can offer you.

Swingline is a great feat for him, as it'll allow him to charge over hindering, and perhaps more importantly, get an extra square of charge, giving him an effective range of 16. If you can strike first, outwit is not as important. Magog has exploit weakness after all.

That being said, here's a team idea NOT including TK, in case you've got something against it.

Magog 209 + Oracle
V Lockjaw 38 + double time 5
V Viper 48 + AP 10 + Oracle
V Lockjaw 38 + double time 5
Oracle played on card 27
400

If you go 2nd your first move is to have Viper change Oracle to outwit. Lockjaw carries her over to Supes, who should now probably have an action token. You can outwit his HSS. This forces him to take a click either way. Either by pushing, or by poison. If he pushes, then you bring Magog up with other Lockjaw on your next turn.

Since supes wwill have 149 points, he'll probably throw some outwit in there. You'll have to try to position your first lockjaw in a spot where he'll block LOF from supes outwitter. In certain situations that's impossible.

I would like to politely beg to differ on this, at least if we are talking about a 300 point game here.

If you have a Protected Magog carried by a Lockjaw, and Superman Pushes to try to hit Magog, you will have an Impervious roll to save you, followed by a Protected to use if he does connect.

Superman will then run away whereupon he will be unable to move on his next turn due to his Push.

You can then move next to him with Magog without fear of retaliation and nail him the next turn.

A 400 point game is different for both sides, however, and it really changes the dynamics both will employ and have at their disposal...

I forgot to say no ICWO...

here's a magog team I used post fccf but pre feats/bfcs

U Magog 209
R Johnny Alpha 41 TK stealth SS
R Brainac 5 40 OW and perplexing taxi wc
E Paramedic 10

300pts

Johnny Alpha is still one of my favorite "INDY" clix figures .

try using ghost widow as a carrier too. she has a higher defense than LJ and regen to make her dial seem longer. ALSO poison to take out sue storm combos

Magog+protected+haymaker+unstoppable
Ghost Widow+AP
4 pts. of bystanders
300 pts.

I definitely like Ghost Widow, but in this case, I don't think that she is superior to Lockjaw for 2 major reasons:

#1.) The goal of this "challenge" is to build a Magog team that can take on V. Superman (Icons), and he can obliterate Ghost Widow with one shot and therefore she will never have a chance to use her Regen.

#2.) Her Movement is only a 9, compared to Lockjaw's 12, therefore she can't carry Magog nearly as far across the board and into Superman's grill as Lockjaw can.

Now if this were built to be more balanced, it may change somewhat...

Magog kills on the first hit.

Magog 209pts
Haymaker 10pts
Mandroid 28pts
Destiny 20pts
Con Artist 16pts
Tarleton 16pts

Total : 299pts


1. Grab Soda Machine
2. Activate Con Artist
3. Use Tarleton's barrier to protect team
4. Perplex Magog's Damage
5. TK out Magog
6. Position Destiny
7. Swing with haymaker, sodas, and +1 perplexed Damage
8. PC 'cause your attack dropped to a 12 due to haymaker
and you had to roll an 8+ to hit Supes
9. Deal 11 clicks of unavoidable damage thanks to Exploit Weakness

Goodbye Superman.

Just remember to protect yourself with the barrier.
I'd hate to see Mandroid taken out before launching Magog.

That would be great... but you can't Exploit Weakness and Haymaker.

Unfortunate.
then I'd drop it for ane more con artist.