lalang ako magawa. i was thinking of starting a thread about strategy nating mga pinoy sa paglalaro ng heroclix. kasi, no offense sa ibang bansa, parang ang papangit nung strategies nila sa strategy forum (syempre hindi naman lahat). lahat tayo may kanya kanyang strategy di ba? i encourage you to post it here para makatulong tayo sa mga newbies and at the same time makakuha rin ng ibat ibang ideas sa pag lalaro. (hindi puro emerald empress + nova blast nalang gagamitin natin para manalo...teka ako yun a!)

simulan ko na...

and speaking of emerald empress+noveblast (or T.E.E.N.), may naisip akong counter strategy dito. pero vulnerable naman sa ibang tactics, lahat naman ganun ei di ba?

ang panlaban sa ganun sakaling ginamitan ka ng ordinary day (poor teamwork kasi kalaban ng TEEN ei). gumamit ka ng Avengers+wildcards+T-bolts+pogs (liam harper). T-bolts mo yung avegers to suicide squad and then ilapit mo lahat ng wildcards/avengers and pog/s. lahat dapat sila adjacent sa pog.

tapos pag nag nova blast yung kalaban, mamamatay yung pog then instant healing lahat ng adjacent. yun nga lang tsambahan sa roll ng dice, but at least assured ka na may 1 click of healing ka. (pag nkalusot pa ang power dampening field mo e assured ka na 2 cliks lang ang damage nya sa lahat, may fighting chance ka pang gantihan yung salarin!

yun lang muna.

p.s.: i believe legal move ang suicide squad after pulse wave kasi after ng attack sya nagtatake place and not during...judges?

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haha natawa ako dun sa part na ikaw un pinariringgan mo hahaha pero eto lang masasabi ko i hate pulse wave teams hehe nakakasira talaga ng diskarte ang nova blast, well for me di ko pa lang kasi nafifigure out pano eto talunin.

ako i wanna try out my own version of LAMP team ay PALM nga pala ika nga ni charlon, of course may joker dun pero i was thinking of manbat as the carrier instead of lockjaw, basta hard to explain di ko pa kasi nagagamit kasi wala pa format na nagfit ever since naisip ko haha

Yup it's legal, kase after noba blast na nagkick in yung suicide squad.

Anyway, if you remember, that's exactly what happened nung clixma2 between us (puro transporter ako hehe)

Even though nakapagheal si black knight at hawkeye (through pogs, bad trip 1 click 1 click), the rest of my team was decimated ang masama pa e hindi sila namatay (yung mga 2ndary guys) para fully healed yung team ko haha so kahit na buhay hitters, you're left with no support (unless nga buong team mo ng avengers/wildcard). Tapos pinatay mo na lang sila gamit thor haha

Well, baka nga dahil high point game un, kaya marame pang ibang papatay sayo, so this strat might work sa lower point levels, mahrap lang nga ang mobility, since mga isa isang pog lang ang makakagalaw, at pwede ka ren i range na lang or something, but as i said, it could work

hello..pwde po ba paki explain bakit ang lakas ng combo novablast emerald empress?tnx
curious kc i never experienced playing against one...
hehe...anyway guys lam niyo naman newb ako..
help naman...
team ko kc is built around BA and Ghostrider..pero gusto ko din magbuild around BATMAN(don't know why pero naging fav ko siya hahaha cool niya hehe=D)
thoughts on how to build around them??
mga simple basics lang..i don't have a strategy pa nga e hahahaha!!!
tnx!
God bless=D

well, pulse wave kase ignores all powers, and team abilities (walang impervious, senses, 19 defense from sue storm /defend etc and the like), so you can imagine how powerful it is, kahit 1 damage lang nagagawa, kase the only thing that could save you is a bad dice roll.

ung one weakness nya na un (1 damage), e natangal with nova blast, na nakakapag deal ng full damage (take two damage ka nga lang)

so, most probably, by the 2nd turn, hindi ka pag nakakapag spread out, or if naka pagspread out ka, may mga nakakumpol pa rin na figs, siguro ung may main hitter, or most supports etc, then i nonovablast ka, so by your 2nd turn, take 4 na lahat ng figs mo rendering most of them useless.

plus, novablast empress + cheapest tker now (42) is only 154 points! how cost effective, kaya malaki pa room for "other hitters" na magcleclean up after novablast, or more room para palakasin pa si empress (perplex attack and range, prob).

pero shempre, it doesn't necessarily mean panalo ka na pag nag empress nova ka, "malakas" lang sya in a word, marame kang pang counter for that, MARAME. yun lang, bow

so c empress damage din ng two sa sarili nya??
so most likely parang one shot trick??if you survived the 1st blow..patay na c empress??

hehe...anyway guys lam niyo naman newb ako..
help naman...
team ko kc is built around BA and Ghostrider..pero gusto ko din magbuild around BATMAN(don't know why pero naging fav ko siya hahaha cool niya hehe=D)
thoughts on how to build around them??
mga simple basics lang..i don't have a strategy pa nga e hahahaha!!!

yup, 2 damage, as compared to the possible 4 damage to every figure sa opposing team, that's a good deal

well, yes, one time use lang sya, and that's a big IF you survive, but like i said, 154 points, lots of room to make sure na tatama yan and most likely sayo na nga yung 112 points (uumugin nyo si emerald after mag nova blast), pero ginawa na nya trabaho nya.

as for team building, wala naman talagang tama o mali, hndi rin naman kailangan ng reason, just as long as YOU want it

just some basic things to consider, e yung weakness ng particular figs.

Example, BA, overall napakalakas niya etc etc, pero one minor flaw is that maliit lang defense nya, and, one good hit, and most probably 150pt statue na sya dahil wala pang range. So work around that, medic ba? defend? 2ndary attackers that would distract your opponent? etc.

Batman, good stats, good TA. problem lang is mobility, so kelangan mo ba flyer? tker? isa pa, walang damage reducer, lagyan mo protected? Again, yung secondary attackers to help him out. Example, isang good RCEr, since big time outwitter si batman at attacker, kelangan mo ng taga tapos ng deal, outwit senses, es/d, touhgness o ano pa, tira batman, tira yung ranged mo, mga ganun...

Ghost rider, well all around, a great fig. wala ka ng mahihingi pa, good stats, good mobility, lahat na. So consider improving na lang, example, yung trans attack nya could use some help, perplex? prob? pag nag running shot naman, open sya to enemy fire, so kailangan mo ng Line of Sight (LOS) blocker? mga ganun.

the best way to learn pa ren, is to play

i have too much time on my hands, narealize ko lang

wow charlon parang kuya ah. hehe pero makinig ka jan xtriker magaling yan lage ako kinakarne pero watch out din kasi mabilis yan parang david blaine magaling sa sleight of hand haha kidding. sino ba un BA?

BA = Black Adam

ahh yes i remember! you're right... siguro nga masyado mataas yung point build nung format kaya ang daming back-up. pero pag sa low point formats (400pts and below),gya ng sabi mu, it could work.

actually pwede ring pang counter dun ay "PALMD/LAMPD". may double time na si lockjaw. pwesto mo sa tabi ni empress then outwit pulsewave.

or have a pouncer/HHS fig padala mo (using tk) para upakan yung tk piece nya. (wont work sa high point games dahil kadalasan 2 ang tk nito,pero kung ganun,edi 2 din pouncer/HHS fig mo)

Ang kalaban tlga ng TEEN tactic dice roll......... (di ba mark? )
Pero so far swerte ako sa mga TEEN teams na nakalaban ko, since gamit ko KC flash umaabot ako ng 21 def ehehehhe bihira tamaan:knockedou
sabagay in a 300pt game ilan perplex at prob ang malalagay mo? 1 or 2 lng lets say you have an average AV of 12 (kasama na ICWO at perplex) at isang prob, lets say tumama ka nga for 4 dmg at 9 to hit, tpos inananobots ka lng ni flash hehehe, tpos ang pangontra naman kay flash ay ung mga poison figures:knockedou kaya bawat tactic palagi may counter tactic! Tandaan nyo yan! So far ang pinakanakakaasar na figure labanan ay si Superman Vet ng Icons lalo na sa 400pt pataas na laban, imagine walang nasasayang kay supes isang banat cgurado may mamamatay sayo kung hinde man lupaypay ka agad saksakan mo lng ng fortitude si supes e parang pader na yan! 12 atk 18def tpos HSS at imperv pa! Mas kahindikhindik pa yan before the HSS nerf imagine mo move shoot at 10range na walang tago tago hehehe

Well..There is also another sure way to combat the much dreaded nova blast..that's the double barrier technique.

wats d double barrier technique? and di mo ba pwede unahan nalang kaagad ung kalaban or...mgtransporter ka tpos 1 turn e spread out ka na...but kahit ba stealth tatamaan nun??and diba dapat clear line of sight so ilan lang kaya niya tamaan..i think ah...d best way is still to use a decoy and position nicely...well that's all i think galing yan sa pure imagination hahahahaha..
and pahabol lang..wats sleight of hands na ala david blaine??sa pagikot ba ng dial??hahaha...joke..

haha i was just kidding with the sleight of hands thingy...

pulse wave ignores all power and team abilities basta abot sa range. well 1 tactic to avoid being pulse waved is to divide your team para kahit papano malito un pulse waver sino attakihin.

double barrier technique is when you field in 2 figs that can make barriers, para every turn magbabarrier ka. this technique is usually used by defensive people, un mga mahihina ang balls hahaha kidding.