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I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I'll ask anyhow. My group really doesn't get to many tourney's, and a question has come up about Power Cosmic. We are unsure about what if anything can be outwitted on a character with this TA, can anyone help me out? Thanx..
Specifically, No powers can be countered on a fig with Power Cosmic. As of right now, only two things (that I know of) counter powers. Outwit and the feat Ambush. By the wording, no PC fig can have his powers outwitted, and (if the day comes) any PC fig with Stealth would not lose his Stealth, but still gain the +2 ATK for using Ambush! That's kind of a ridiculous thing that's probably not happening any time soon.
Actually, if you play the Battle Field Condition "Disbanded", then you can outwit anything on a PC Fig. Won't work on special pieces like Galactus, but there are special rules for the collosal pieces.
Actually, if you play the Battle Field Condition "Disbanded", then you can outwit anything on a PC Fig. Won't work on special pieces like Galactus, but there are special rules for the collosal pieces.
Well, it sort of works on Galactus. He still has all of his regular immunities (Psychic Blast, EW, etc.), can still go every turn without taking pushing damage. However, with Disbanded, you can Outwit any powers on his dial.
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What about the new feat card ( DISSENT) ? That card allows you to counter (turn-off) a team ability for one turn.
Can yuou use that card and shut down Power Cosmic for turn?
You can however thwart a PC character's Feat Cards, since Outwit isn't being used, and a Feat Card is not a Power. That way you can get rid of the annoying Shellhead that Thanos loves.
I believe that's been addressed in the affirmative in the Wizkids' Forums. CSA may/may not be Dissented (not sure) but you can always just outwit their Probability Control. Quintessence and Power Cosmic can't be nullified with Dissent. I am curious about Outsiders though. As far as I understand it, non-copiable TAs can't be countered with Dissent.
So you're saying that the "Power Cosmic" (TA) is immune to the Dissent card ?????
Precisely. Only way to get rid of the PC TA is to play Disbanded!
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I believe that's been addressed in the affirmative in the Wizkids' Forums. CSA may/may not be Dissented (not sure) but you can always just outwit their Probability Control. Quintessence and Power Cosmic can't be nullified with Dissent. I am curious about Outsiders though. As far as I understand it, non-copiable TAs can't be countered with Dissent.
As far as I know, nothing stops non-copiable TAs from being Dissented - Dissent does not mention that the TA must be copiable. So you could Dissent CSA or Outsiders if you wish.
I think I have to correct myself. I mentioned in an earlier post that Disbanded would work on Power Cosmic, but the latest errata seems to negate that:
"Power Cosmic Team Ability
• This team ability cannot be
countered"
Looks to me like Disbanded won't work then. Same goes for Quintessence. What do you all think?
I think I have to correct myself. I mentioned in an earlier post that Disbanded would work on Power Cosmic, but the latest errata seems to negate that:
"Power Cosmic Team Ability
• This team ability cannot be
countered"
Looks to me like Disbanded won't work then. Same goes for Quintessence. What do you all think?
Nope. Disbanded still works. Disbanded reads "Ignore all Team Abilities." It would have to read "All Team Abilities are countered" for it to not have an effect on PC/Quintessence.
Disbanded works on all Team Abilities.
Well, I AM pretty awesome.
An understanding of the law of large numbers leads to a realization that what appear to be fantastic improbabilities are not remarkable at all but, merely to be expected.
I think I have to correct myself. I mentioned in an earlier post that Disbanded would work on Power Cosmic, but the latest errata seems to negate that:
"Power Cosmic Team Ability
• This team ability cannot be
countered"
Looks to me like Disbanded won't work then. Same goes for Quintessence. What do you all think?
I think based on what the Power Cosmic TA is supposed to represent that this is accurate. Otherwise it would be like having the Watcher say to Johnny "Just run down to the local hardware store and pick up an Ultimate Nullifier - they are 'Buy one - get one free' this week".
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