Northstar is tied up by the Elongated Man. The Canadian speedster smacks the slippery detective back 2 meters(or just one?)w/ the first of a flurry of supersonic blows. Damage done? Turn over?

I've read the Icons P&A card. Is the Knockback the value of the attacking character or determined by the # of hits w/ HSS?

This is probably a very self-explanatory/ "re-read something" question/answer. Sorry.....but I lost half my frontal lobe in a tragic bowling accident.

Peace to all "fanz"

Did the bowling involve soup?

From the PAC's (X-Men Danger Room) description of HSS:
"If doubles are rolled during any successful attack, knockback occurs only after damage from the power action is taken."

Elongated Man would only take knockback after the HSS attacks are finished, and damage has been dealt. Even if you roll one or more crit hits. However, you'd stop when the attacks fail, or Northstar rolls a crit miss. Damage (and applicable knockback) would still be dealt, however.

Knockback is equal to the damage taken by the target.

For example, the HSS fig hits 3 times, and the target has Toughness.

So, the target is dealt 3 damage, but only takes 2 damage due to toughness (assuming no other effects are in play). Since the target takes 2 damage, he is knocked back 2 squares.



BTW, I'm not sure what you mean by "Northstar is tied up by EM." You do know that a HSS character does not need to roll breakaway to do option 1, right?



Hope this helps....

The Icons PAC is a little out of date now... the most current one is the LoSH which can be found at http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix...C_LOSH_PAC.pdf

As far as your question goes, I'm not 100% clear on the details of HSS option 2, but I believe the knockback from the attack would be applied after the action is resolved. If you successfully roll four times and then miss or choose to stop, damage would then be dealt and the character would be knocked back due to a roll of doubles. Just a speculation on my part, and I usually interpret rules the right way, but I could be wrong, so take it for what it's worth

EDIT: Well, there you have it, the two that beat me to the punch confirmed me!

OK. The Icons rules r outa date(I've been reamed 4 my Combat Reflex's interpertation). And I didn't know about HSSpeedsters not being able to be coralled by "plastic dudes".

So, you can roll all sorts of "doubles" that hit, but the target doesn't suffer Knoxbak till the attacker misses or stops? Right?

Then u add "all?" the damage to Knokbak equation? And move E-man whatever he got spanked for?

As long as the subject has been brought up, was it EVER that doubles would end the action? I remember I was taught that (among a lot of other wrong things and "house rules" that was taught as "real rules".... but that's a whole other rant), but after I found out the right way, I don't think I ever found out if it was ever the way I was taught, or if they just totally misunderstood it.

I believe that was the Indy Rules that stopped on doubles....I can check if you want me to....ok I did

Indy PAC HSS entry
Yep those are OLD OLD rules.

Wow....... they really hadn't read up on any rule changes when they taught me (or more than likely didn't care because it was a smaller gaming group). LOL!!!
They did teach me around when Mutant Mayhem was about to come out, but STILL.