since I still cant find a definate answer, I am asking again

say if my opponents team was completley in stealth, could I just run up and Pulse Wave everyone...

OR

do I still need to at least be able to target 1 person and then effect everyone else in stealth ???

Stealthed chaaracters are legal targets for Pulse Wave.

Even using a Running Shot, if I were using single target Pulse Wave vs. a figure with Stealth in hindering terrain, since Pulse Wave allows me to ignore powers, TA's, and Feats I can target the figure in Stealth (even though I could not "see" them before the attack). The figure will get +1 to DV for being in hindering though. PW does not ignore that. Also, if the figure you are targeting is holding a desk, they would still get +2 to Dv as PW dow not ignore that either. Hope this helps.

aaahhh see this is what I thought...cause one of the venues down here debated this with me...when I thought I was right

They changed the wording on running shot so that the argument against RS PW is null and void

to what ?

then what be the correct answer sir ?

He means the wording has changed and you can definitely RS and PW.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay thanks peeps...I hope people at the Venues in Rhode Island read this !!!




HOLLER !

Last line of Pulse Wave on the PAC: "Attacks made with this power do not target characters."

The power is used in the order the directions appear on the card.

1. Declare a ranged combat action/PW.
2. At this point, all powers/TAs/etc are ignored.
3. NOW draw lines of fire. As long as you have at least one opposing character in range, you're good to go.

Okay, you should probably make sure something will be in range BEFORE you declare you're going to use the power, but you get the point. This is exactly the order of things on the PAC. Nothing is targeted by the power because targets never have to be declared. Everything gets ignored when you declare the use of PW, and becomes fair game.

From the General E&C
A character cannot use Running Shot unless there is a legal ranged combat action it can make from that character's final destination square

They removed the part about having to draw a line of fire

WHOOOOHHH so what's the Verdict, can I or cant I

As has been stated, you CAN use PW against a figure in stealth... You ignore the stealth before drawing LOFs

Are you asking whether you can make a Pulse Wave attack or not?

If you are a flyer with Pulse Wave and your movement after the move portion of running shot places you surrounded by people in Stealth then yes, go boom! The fact that you cannot draw a normal line of fire is meaningless for Pulse Wave

If your running shot would your non-flying character in base contact with any non-flyers then no because you cannot take a ranged action or attack if you are not a flyer and your targets are not

Since Pulse Wave follows its own rules rather than a normal ranged action (like PB) follow the rules for that power when determining whether or not you can make that action

You got it right, except for the point I just marked.

Flame On!

What's your issue with the portion you marked?