If I use the outsiders TA on Darkseid, use it's special power "omega effect" and choose to do penetrating damage, is the damage reductión prevented due the TA?
If I use the same TA on a character with 3 damage using Hypersonic Speed Option 2, does this mean that each attack roll deals 3 damage due the team ability efect that prevents this character reduce his damage value?
It works the same on a pulse wave with the outsider characater outside the range effect of the pulsewave, does the damage value remains the same for multiple characters?

I'm pretty sure that Pulse Wave makes 1 a replacement value, so "no."

The wording is "becomes 1" according to what I'm looking at, so here we go.

Darkseid: Yes.

HSS: No.

Pulse Wave: No.

Outsiders only prefents modifications, not replacement. Both HSS and Pulse Wave replace their figure's damage value with 1. HSS later modified it by +1 for each successful attack, so Outsiders would prevent that, I believe.

Quick answer - any corrections welcome!

1. Yes, Outsiders protects Darkseid from the negative modifier.
2. No, Hypersonic Speed option 2 replaces your damage value with a number equal to the number of successful hits. That's a replacement value, not a modifier. You can use Outsiders to stop the target of a Hypersonic Speed option 2 attack from getting the defense bonus.
3. No. Again, the Pulse Wave damage change is a replacement value, not a modifier.

Kid Zemo

It would, which would only benefit you defensively (i.e. against a HSS character). It'd be hard to create a situation where your opponent would opt for HSS option 2 after being "Outsider"-ed

Though as Kid Zemo said, you could use it against the target of your HSS attack option 2, then they would not gain the benefit of the +1 defense for each attack.

You are probably right Kid Zemo. And I must say blueboyscout, your right Outsiders is a sweet TA!

Kid Zemo is right. Under the old rules for HSS the damage value was reduced to one, now it is replaced. I was thinking on this too until this morning. How crazy would that have been to have Man of Steel HSS attacking for 15 clicks if he didn't miss after being Outsider'd!

Coupled with Outsiders, that seems to be a pretty wicked combo.

Edit: You could perplex the targets defense down or your attack up and it would not change until after the damage is dealt right?

If you targeted a character with Outsiders and attacked them with Hypersonic Speed Option 2, you would be wasting Perplex to decrease their Defense value because Outsiders would prevent. However, using Perplex to increase your HSSer's attack value would be effective. The attack value would only lose the modification from Perplex if the attacker takes damage (critical miss, Mystics, etc) or is healed before the end of your turn, at which point the modification goes away anyway.

This subject has been discussed thoroughly in other threads. A search would give plenty of answers to your questions on the subject.

Outsiders + Darkseid is what helped me kill the Anti Monitor this past week. AM is immune to psychic blast, but not the generic 'penetrating damage' Darkseid can dish out.

I love using it on Darkseid.

Perplex his damage to 5-6, and that's full penetrating damage.

Can also be used with the Transporter Ability/Attack.

I love using it on Darkseid.

Perplex his damage to 5-6, and that's full penetrating damage.

Can also be used with the Transporter Ability/Attack. [/


Outsiders only works on modifications from a power or Team Ability.
The move and attack ability is neither of these, so Outsiders has no affect on that. Sorry.

can you outsiders a transporter and ignore the -2 attack?

As stated in my previous post, no.

If it's not on the PAC then Outsiders can't affect it.