I posted this on the WK forums as well - the more input the better, though!

The new "The Thing" has the following special power:

My questions are as follows:
The rulebook defines friendly characters as those characters on your force or an allied player's force. Is The Thing friendly to himself? i.e. if he meets the other requirements, can he remove a token from himself? It seems he would have to be adjacent to a friendly with a token, but can he then take the token from himself if he makes the roll?

Do the friendly character or characters to have tokens removed have to be adjacent to the thing? Or can he use the power if he's adjacent to at least one friendly with a token, but remove tokens from other characters who aren't adjacent?

Thanks!

Very good question, Loaf. My answer... I don't know? I would guess that he wouldn't be able to remove from himself, but it never says anything about adjacency, so you COULD remove from a distant figure.

I dont think he can. You should ask a judge about it.

I believe you are never considered friendly to yourself, just like you are never considered adjacent to yourself, but I could be wrong.

As for the second part: As written, you are correct; it does not say the action tokens need to be removed from adjacent figures, only that Thing needs to be adjacent to a friendly figure with an action token for it to happen.

However, it's clear what the intention of the rule is, and if you tried to argue otherwise, I'd call you on violating Gaming Rule #1: Don't Be A Dick.

I said it there and I will post it here, I believe that the poertion I put in bold and underlined creates a distinction between the Thing and the figures that have a token removed. Just my opinion, I guess we'll wait for a current judge to rule.

haha. good gaming rule

Well, I don't want to be a "dick", but I don't think it's very clear.

You are likely correct, but I'm just trying to hear from multiple people. Please don't take any offense.

What if only one token is to be removed? Does the second part still apply or do you stop when it stops talking about removing a token from one character?

No offense taken. I thought this might be in the new E&C document but it isn't. My guess, it will be in the next one.

i'm gonna say (and have played him this way) that you can definitely take an action token off of yourself. the power doesn't state "another" friendly character (like other feats specifically state). if you're not friendly to yourself are you "opposing" to yourself? nope. you are one or another, there are no nuetral characters on a force.

it's gotta say somewhere that characters on your force are friendly to you. seems cut and dry to me and i'm confident the ruling will confirm what you want to do Meatloafx.

as far as a figure not adjacent to him and not himself? the way it's worded i think he can, but i don't know about that.

is the Thing heading to GenCon?

so as long as he's adjacent to someone with a token, he can remove his own AND someone else's? (not adjacent character "X") but instead character "Y", whos 5 squares away?

that is the question isn't it? i hope so.

I wouldn't leap to any conclusions. I'm nowhere near a team I'm comfortable with. I've just really enjoyed the F4 starter figs - espeically in 400 point tournaments, which we have this weekend.

nbperp's response:

awesome! my soldier team just got alot better