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Quests:
4 Standards and Practices
4 It's a Secret to Everybody
3 Solanian's Belongings
3 Donation of Silk
2 Finkle Einhorn. At Your Service!
So changes from the original list. I added Redemption and Moko because they seem to work really really well together. I found that Tewa worked ok with Redemption but Moko's ferocity is just about unmatched. Especially since I could use him to stabalize by suiciding him into things then popping him back out with redemption for another instant attack. Something that Tewa couldn't do....and couldn't do it for a whole 'nother turn. I changed Counter Attack to Standards and Practices because its cheaper, but since I'm running less Tewa it might be worth it switch back or go half and half for the additional card draw.
I'm not sure about the Arcane Torrent or the Lay on Hands. I could probably cut down to one or two of each. Arcane torrent is really nice against the current Druid builds I've seen using moonfire. What would replace them? Probably goto four Hellreaver, Blessing of Freedoms and Consecration. Also maybe some low cost protectors? I see that there is a build on ude.com/wow right now that's using Sus'vayin and Scout Omerta which seems interesting.
Arrg! I hate this deck! Well, I hate it in the way that its a REALLY GOOD paladin deck and I HATE paladin decks. I think your research has really helped the deck I guess 16 quests is slightly too much for me, but that is nit picking, i think it is good, for a paladin
/expletive
I just can't understand why people aren't running Nathadan in these builds. He gives you the best Paladin talent in Holy Shield and you lose nothing. Just seems a no brainer. Otherwise I like the metamorphosis.
Also with more and more Shadowfiends appearing in certain metas Scout Omerta. Plus I prefer Aleyah, well because she is hotter, you know in the cartoon/anime chick way where you wish it was physically possibly to have a woman actually look like that. I wasn't really much of help on this discussion, sorry my bad,
An amateur practices to get it right and a professional practices so that they can't get it wrong.
Also with more and more Shadowfiends appearing in certain metas Scout Omerta. Plus I prefer Aleyah, well because she is hotter, you know in the cartoon/anime chick way where you wish it was physically possibly to have a woman actually look like that. I wasn't really much of help on this discussion, sorry my bad,
You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Savage Puck again!
Personally Nathandan is my choice. Holy Shield and Avengers Shield seem like really good includes for the deck to run against rush.
Aleyah's flip, IMO, is far too good to not play. Holy Shield is nice, a 2 cost removal IS something this deck lacks, and I never really liked Avenger's. It's only a live card, really, in the Omedus matchup, and Nathadan's flip is so unbelievably... meh.
Sus'Vayin is broken.
Why no Counterattack?
What is everyones opinion on Scout vs. Ka'tali Stonetusk?
Respectfully disagree on the flip vs. Holy Shield thing. In a deck where you run Lay On Hands you don't really need it. Now Holy Shield "THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!" Stop the rush early prevent that aimed shot or shadowburn.....ahhhh I could go on.
I too like Sus'Vayin not broken though
I think it should be CounterAttack over It's a Secret
Scout is far greater than Ka'Tali
Holy Shield is good in a lot of other matchups. It's good against almost any rush deck and it can pile up damage on something like a Magni or a Chen or even kill a Greench once they become legal. I play Ka'tali because he doesn't die to the slew of 1-damage abilities being played these days.
I don't know what rush decks you guys are playing, but all the ones I play against are untargetable, meaning that holy shield and avenger's shield become dead cards in your hand. It does work ok against some of the warlock and priest builds that use low cost abilities early on, but I'm not seeing that as anything I can't heal off later anyway.
Also using Lay on Handsis very tricky and requires quite alot of setup. Ideally I find that it almost never works effectivly except against Warrior's and Feral Druids since you can just lock them down with Hammer of Justice and don't have to worry about ally damage. Any other match up is gonna destroy you with their extra turn or at least put you right back where you started.
Scout is better because he is 2 ATK. Simple as that. He can get some of those two and even three cost rush guys off the boards where as Ka'tali just dies and leaves a 3ATK/2health guy on the board to smash you next turn.
No Counter Attack! because the deck wants lots of face downs and it quicker to pay two to get standards and practices down then it is to pay three and get counter attack down. Also I don't suffer from card draw to often cause I can usually get Blessing of Wisdom down and then I'm just cranking cards out.
Also after playing with this some more this weekend:
1. Blessing of Freedom is disgustingly amazing
2. Scout is a must against the early rush. Even though I can heal it off later on taking some times ten points in the first three turn is rough, and with only Guardian Steelhorn as the most effective early game defense is not enough.
3. I need a good sideboard....thoughts?
I'm planning on updating this build for Legion soon....any suggestions? I'm gonna try to put in the Aldor low cost inspire Ally and inspire Weapon dudes. Thoughts? Suggestions?