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Ok, so if I choose to use poison on her. I could still outwit someone, choose to use the poison then have the poison all work at the start of my turn right? I'm still confused about what happens with free actions, I'm pretty sure I get to choose which free actions happen first. But I just want to make sure. Thanks
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Yes, free actions (like Outwit, and Nico's Staff selection) can take place before the application of Poison, so long as you don't give out a non-free action first... the "beginning of your turn" is a kind of grey area where you can make decisions and do things that don't assign tokens in any order you please.
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I would say you could outwit then change Nico to poison and have it work since they are both free actions but it'll only work if the outwit is coming from another character.
If you got Batman on Nico's team you could have Batman outwit the damage reducer, use the Staff to get Poison, then activate Poison and the other figure takes a click. If Nico was given outwit last turn and you try to use it on the damage reducer then switch to poison and activate it the damage reducer will soak the poison because since Nico no longer has outwit the power that was outwitted returns instantly before poison can activate.
Yes, free actions (like Outwit, and Nico's Staff selection) can take place before the application of Poison, so long as you don't give out a non-free action first... the "beginning of your turn" is a kind of grey area where you can make decisions and do things that don't assign tokens in any order you please.
There are some tokenable actions could occur during the "beginning of turn" phase depending on how they were worded (i.e., any time during your turn...).
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Once during each of your turns, you may give Nico Munro a free action and choose a standard power that you didn't choose during your last turn. Nico can use that power until the beginning of your next turn.
It's the underlined portion that is the key here. If the power had simply said "Give Nico a free action and choose..." then there would be nothing to make it specifically something she can do at any time (most importantly, during the "beginning of your turn" time). Then is would have been a free action after the "beginning of the your turn" which would have allowed her to have Poison, but the time to use Poison would have already past.
The underlined phrase means she CAN use that power during the beginning of your turn and multiple effects during the beginning of your turn can occur in whatever order you wish. So you can give her Poison and then use it.
I have to say no. Becuase the wording says. "once during each of ur turns, you may give a free action and choose a standard power that you didnt choose your last turn. Nico can use that power until the beginin of your next turn" From the wordin u coose ONE power on your turn and ur stuck w/ it until your next turn. So, if u choose outwit ur stuck w/ outwit until ur next turn, if u choose poison ur stuck w/ poison til ur next turn. u cant choose poison then on that same turn choose outwit. but u can do poison on one turn and outwit on another
Okay, I'm just making sure I understand something about her timing here.
Turn A: Nico is given Outwit. She Outwits the defensive power of Target 1.
Turn B: At the beginning of the turn, she Outwits the defensive power of Target 1 again.
Turn B +: In the middle of the turn, she declares her new power to be Poison. Nico can now use Poison in the middle of the turn. Also, since Outwit is gone, at the moment she switches powers, Target 1's defensive power comes back.
Is this correct?
Or are we saying this:
Turn A: At the beginning of the turn, Nico is given Poison. She uses Poison immediately as it is the beginning of the turn.
Turn B: At the beginning of the turn, she Poisons again.
Turn B +: In the middle of the turn, she declares her new power to be Outwit. Nico can now use Outwit normally.
Slight difference than the example above, I know, and perhaps both are correct. I'm just trying to make sure I use the Staff of One correctly.
Okay, I'm just making sure I understand something about her timing here.
Turn A: Nico is given Outwit. She Outwits the defensive power of Target 1.
Turn B: At the beginning of the turn, she Outwits the defensive power of Target 1 again.
Turn B +: In the middle of the turn, she declares her new power to be Poison. Nico can now use Poison in the middle of the turn. Also, since Outwit is gone, at the moment she switches powers, Target 1's defensive power comes back.
Is this correct?
Or are we saying this:
Turn A: At the beginning of the turn, Nico is given Poison. She uses Poison immediately as it is the beginning of the turn.
Turn B: At the beginning of the turn, she Poisons again.
Turn B +: In the middle of the turn, she declares her new power to be Outwit. Nico can now use Outwit normally.
Slight difference than the example above, I know, and perhaps both are correct. I'm just trying to make sure I use the Staff of One correctly.
Uh...neither. She cannot Outwit a defensive ability and then declare Poison, because as soon as she gains Poison, she loses Outwit. Sorry!
I would say the second one is close to correct bcus staff of one resets at the beginnin of ur next turn. but once u choose poison u cant choose another power ur stuck w/ poison until the beginin of ur next turn when staff of one resets
I haven't used her yet, or had her used against me, so I'm just trying to understand.
If she uses Poison on Turn A, she can't use it again on Turn B, because she can't use the same power two turns in row, right?
The thing I'm still fuzzy on is if she can use Poison mid-turn. Can she do that? Or, if she wants to use Poison, she has to declare it at the beginning of the turn, because that's when Poison works.
The thing I'm still fuzzy on is if she can use Poison mid-turn. Can she do that? Or, if she wants to use Poison, she has to declare it at the beginning of the turn, because that's when Poison works.
No it can't be used mid turn. Poison would have to be declared at the beginning of the turn so you'd have to switch to Poison then to activate it.
I haven't used her yet, or had her used against me, so I'm just trying to understand.
If she uses Poison on Turn A, she can't use it again on Turn B, because she can't use the same power two turns in row, right?
I have used her twice. and plan to use her a lot more. So yes u r corrext in thinkin u declare poision on turn a u cant use it on turn b, but can use it on turn c. here how u can think of it:
Turn 1: Poison
Turn 2: Outwit (cant use poison)
Turn 3: Poison (cant use outwit)
Turn 4: Outwit (cant use poison agian)
and so on
How i do it:
Turn 1: Perplex
Turn 2: Prob
Turn 3:Outwit
Turn 4: Perplex
Turn 5:Support
Turn 6: Regen
Turn 7: Somethin else i need
Its usually not exactly like that, i usually choose a power for the situation im in. but as u notice i dont use the same power 2 turns in a row.
When your turn begins, you're taking actions during the beginning of your turn until you declare an action that cannot be taken during the beginning of your turn. As far as standard powers go, your options here are Leadership, Outwit, Perplex and Poison. Special powers, feats, BFCs and other effects that state, "once during your turn", "once at the beginning of your turn" or something similar are also used here. Once you use take any other action, you're no longer in "the beginning of your turn". Any other action could be declaring attack, using a power like Barrier or Telekinesis or a feat like Thwart or Taunt. There's really too many examples to list.
So when your turn begins, you declare that Nico will be using Poison until the beginning of your next turn. It's still the beginning of your turn so you use Outwit from another character to counter the defensive power of an opposing character who is adjacent to Nico. It's still the beginning of your turn so Nico uses Poison, dealing 1 damage to adjacent opposing characters. In this scenario, if you were to declare an attack, use a feat or power (other than what I listed before) before you used Outwit to counter the opposing character's defensive power or Nico's Poison then you would not be able to use Poison anymore during that turn. The declaration of that attack, feat-use or power-use would end the beginning of your turn.
I feel like the Oracle on the Matrix now. "Everything that has a beginning has an end."