I always get confused as to what characters(giants, duo's, colossals, double based, transporters) can't be TK'ed, carried, and knocked back.

Correct me if i'm wrong...

Giants: Can't be carried, can't be knocked back, can be TK'ed, can carry via giant stride

Duo's: Can't be carried, can't be knocked back, can be TK'ed

Double based: can't be carried, can be knocked back, can't be TK'ed

Transporters: can't be carried, can't be knocked back, ??? on TK

Colossals: Can't be carried, can't be knocked back, can't be TK'ed

Thanks.

Double based can be carried.
Transporters can be TK'ed

Added some stuff...


Now, as for the colossals and TK...

In theory, they are like giants. They could be TKed by a friendy. As of right now, however, all colossals have more than one square on their bases. If there were a single-based figure with , then there's nothing preventing it from being TKed by a friend.

Unless I'm mistaken, double-based characters can't be knocked back, and transporters can be knocked back. I also can't find anything that prevents duos from being knocked back.

Correct.

FF rules, page 20:

Double-base characters can’t be moved by Telekinesis, can’t be knocked back, and ignore other characters’ Force Blast.


No mention is ever made of transporters. The confusion (I believe) stems from the fact that initially Transporters were also Double-Based characters and this caused many to jumble their rules. Even though we've had many, many examples since their introduction of single based transporters (and non-transporter double-based characters), there still seems to be a lot of confusion.

Some of the confusion may also be caused by the fact that this is a change.

LOSH, Page 24: "Double-base characters, transporters, giant characters, and colossal characters can’t be knocked back."

That could have something to do with it, too.

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Awesome, thanks guys!

you can TK or carried transporter like nightsade, spidey, mirror master. they are simple base, not giant or collossal and not flight.

Incorrect.

CARRY When moving as a result of being given an action, this character can carry one friendly character. If this character carries a character during an action, modify this character’s speed value by –2 until the end of the action.
Characters with the or speed symbol can be carried. Characters with the , , or speed symbol, attack symbol, or the or damage symbols can’t be carried.
A character holding an object can’t be carried, but if this character’s powers and abilities allow it to do so it can hold an object and carry a character.

Nightshade, E Sininister Spider-Man, and E Origin Mirror Master have the smbol. They cannot be carried, even though they have a single base.

As far as I can tell, SR The Flash from Crisis is the only double base fig that is not a giant, transporter, or flier and thus can be carried.

AA Clown Prince of Crime also fits that bill.

I haven't seen an answer to this part of flatmatt's question. I also just looked through the F4 Rulebook (sections on Knockback and Powers and Abilities) and could not locate anything that implies that Duos do not take knockback.

Where can I find that? Thanks.

There isn't anything that says are not knocked back. Unless they are also or have Charge or something similar, they are knocked back. I think this may be another different-from-LoSH-that-confuses issue.

Did you edit your original question? Somehow I did not see this part when I replied earlier.