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Funny thing that no independent nor DC characters got mentioned.
Also I know Pym is an #######, but did not know that Reed also beats his wife. The idea of Cyclops cheating on Jean Grey shows a definate plot hole.
Funny thing that no independent nor DC characters got mentioned.
Also I know Pym is an #######, but did not know that Reed also beats his wife. The idea of Cyclops cheating on Jean Grey shows a definate plot hole.
Funny thing that no independent nor DC characters got mentioned.
Also I know Pym is an #######, but did not know that Reed also beats his wife. The idea of Cyclops cheating on Jean Grey shows a definate plot hole.
All it shows is that you can take stuff out of context to make it fit some other theory. The 'Reed hits Sue' picture comes from the Malice storyline I believe and was part of his plan to break her out of it (she is having her emotions towards the FF reversed, she thinks 'I love them' and it's turned into 'I hate them' so Reed does something despicable and her hatred towards him is reversed into love and that is enough to break the conditioning. Comics logic, ya gotta love it! ) rather than a typical display.
All it shows is that you can take stuff out of context to make it fit some other theory. The 'Reed hits Sue' picture comes from the Malice storyline I believe and was part of his plan to break her out of it (she is having her emotions towards the FF reversed, she thinks 'I love them' and it's turned into 'I hate them' so Reed does something despicable and her hatred towards him is reversed into love and that is enough to break the conditioning. Comics logic, ya gotta love it! ) rather than a typical display.
While this is all true, Reed still deserves to be there. He takes his marrage for granted, goes MONTHS without doing anything with the wife or kiddies and is all "Its for SCIENTS!" while in his lab alone. Venture bros take on the character wasnt even a spoof, it wasn't really needed! While not the wife beater, he is still a horrible husband and father. Dude needs to pull his head out his own pooper ya ask me. Sue shoulda gone to Namor and actually stayed ya ask me, but she was an AWSOME wife and always came home to hubby. Even though he didn't deserve it. Ultimates Sue was smarter ya ask me, at least the last I read of the FF comic there.
Sigh... I wish I had something clever or witty to put here...
So does that mean DC and Image have a great family dynamic going? That's awesome.
No, they're just smart enough not to get married over there.
Really, isn't Superman the only married person there? Though they DO seem far more functional in marriages in general, as opposed to Marvel, which tends to be dysfunctional more often than not.
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Little known fact - the "M" in M. Bison actually stands for "malakim2099."
I'm a big Hank Pym fan and even I have to admit he earned his way onto that list.
I don't doubt that he did, but it does irritate me that his most recognizable legacy among fans is "wifebeater". When the only incidence of violence against his wife was during the midst of a massive psychological breakdown, sustained by gaslighting from super villains. When his wife herself forgave him for the -single- incident years ago, and been romantically involved with him afterwards, to no further violence. When he suffers another psychological break, and multiple manifestations of himself, based partly on a villain's sorcery and partly on his own guilt over that single incident and fear of it ever happening again.
I know that it's partly because of Ultimates making "wifebeater" the single defining trait of Ultimate Pym's character, but geeze. Fans need a broader perspective on characters, and to forgive the vagaries of weird writing. It's not like Spider-Man hasn't killed half a dozen people.
No, they're just smart enough not to get married over there.
Really, isn't Superman the only married person there? Though they DO seem far more functional in marriages in general, as opposed to Marvel, which tends to be dysfunctional more often than not.
All three of the major Flashes (Jay, Barry, and Wally) had successful marriages, and still do for the most part, with I think Barry being the only exception there. Jay and his current wife have been together much longer than Superman, or most other heroes, have even been alive, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't doubt that he did, but it does irritate me that his most recognizable legacy among fans is "wifebeater". When the only incidence of violence against his wife was during the midst of a massive psychological breakdown, sustained by gaslighting from super villains. When his wife herself forgave him for the -single- incident years ago, and been romantically involved with him afterwards, to no further violence. When he suffers another psychological break, and multiple manifestations of himself, based partly on a villain's sorcery and partly on his own guilt over that single incident and fear of it ever happening again.
I know that it's partly because of Ultimates making "wifebeater" the single defining trait of Ultimate Pym's character, but geeze. Fans need a broader perspective on characters, and to forgive the vagaries of weird writing. It's not like Spider-Man hasn't killed half a dozen people.
Poor Cyke. Being written by Grant Morrison did not agree with him.
And yet it led to him being an actual interesting character instead of the whiny loser he used to be.
"When the going gets weird, the weird go pro." - Hunter S. Thompson"
"Victim? Victim? Do you think this letter on my chest stands for AMERICA?" - you have been getting insulted by nextwave.
The idea of Cyclops cheating on Jean Grey shows a definate plot hole.
Considering Cyclops abandoned his wife and infant son to go running to Jean's side, and then didn't tell Jean he was married, Scott Summers earned his place on the "bad husband" list long ago.
And yet it led to him being an actual interesting character instead of the whiny loser he used to be.
He was an interesting character far earlier than Morrison, and the cheating on Jean with Emma was dumb. Killing Jean Grey with Magneto (or Xorn, or whatever) was even dumber. Magneto murdering an X-Man, particularly one of the originals, would not have been done in such a calculated manner.
Sorry, but Morrison's X-Men run has always been a Fail to me, despite my enjoying his current B&R work.
Quote : Originally Posted by hail_eris
Little known fact - the "M" in M. Bison actually stands for "malakim2099."
I would call Reed a bad husband due to constant neglect.
Hank Pym(616) I actually wouldn't put on the list because as someone already cited he was having a psychological breakdown due to outside forces and that resulted in the slap-heard-'round-the-world!
Bruce was a good husband to Betty and Caeira. They were both victims of his enemies. They both knew what sort of life he lead and enemies he had. Much like a woman married to a cop or special forces person. There are risks involved.
Dr. Strange and Clea were married for awhile, I think before she became ruler of the Dark Dimension. I think she broke it off with him. Similar to Lilandra divorcing Charles.
Absorbing Man and Titania have a good marriage. I guess two wrongs can make a right!
All of The Flashes have good wives. Batman and Talia were actually married during Son of the Demon where Damian was conceived.
Superman and Lois will always be overall good because, it would NEVER seem right to have Superman get a divorce.
Aquaman and Mera's marriage has had some real ups and downs and so have Hawman and Hawkgirl/woman.
Ralph and Sue had one of THE best marriages but, well, we see how that ended. At least they're happy together as ghost sleuths.
Big Barda and Mister Miracle have a great marriage.
The Cyclops/Jean/Emma thing doesn't bother me so much because for YEARS Jean was always flirting and do things with Wolverine while she was with Scott. Now, how he ditched Madelyn and Nate for jean, that was wrong.
Superman: "One of these days, Lois....POW!!! Right to the Marvel Universe!"