The "even if this power is countered or lost" is confusing me.

Scenario 1: Sabretooth hits Wolverine for 3. Wolverine cannot heal for the rest of the game, even if Sabretooth gets taken off his MORTAL WOUND SP or it is outwitted. No problem.

Scenario 2: Beast outwits Sabretooth's Mortal Wound SP. Sabretooth attacks Wolverine and hits him for 3 damage. My question: Can Wolverine heal the next turn? I would say "yes" because the power was countered and therefore not used, however, the phrase "even if this power is countered" gives one pause to think that perhaps the power still would prevent Wolverine from healing.

How would you rule?

i would guess that if you were to outwit Sabretooth's 'Mortal Wound' SP BEFORE he uses it, then he wouldn't get to use it. but if he used it and then was outwitted, then you have been mortally wounded and can't heal.
seems simple enough to me, but i could be mistaken.

I'd say if the SP is countered before you attack then you wouldn't have it to use when you make the attack, therefore none of the SPs effects take place.

I agree. If it worked even if it was outwitted before being used, then they should or would have just put "this power can't be countered or ignored" to clear up the confusion. Since they didn't put that wording, I'd imagine that it can be outwitted beforehand to prevent it from activating.

Exactly correct!

ok how bout this.. Sabretooth attacks a figure with toughness or invul.. and only does 1 or 2 damage.. not 3 damage?

Does it still work or do you actually have to click the dial 3 times?

as the SP states...they have to actually TAKE 3 damage. so if they have a reducer and don't click that dial 3 times, then they haven't taken 3 damage. damage TAKEN and damage DEALT are 2 entirely separate monsters.

the target has to take 3 damage. period.

and don't mean to split hairs here, but Sabretooth wouldn't be doing only 1 or 2 damage, he'd still be dealing 3...just that the target would be only taking 1 or 2.

He has to have the power in order to use it in the first place I would say, and they do not say that the power can't be countered, which would be much clearer if that was their intent.

I would rule that if you outwit the power before he does any damage, then you can heal. If he hits you with it, though, and gets three damage through, then that's that.

My question is whether the effect lasts after Sabertooth is removed from the map.

I tend to think yes, but I think that this power is going to be appearing soon on a FAQ near you.

I would agree with you.

It means that they would actually have to take 3 clix as a result of Sabertooth's attack. Damage reducers would affect how much damage you actually deal to a target so if that number is reduced below 3 the remaining SP effects would not happen. Just Outwit the damage reducers of whoever you're attacking and let Sabertooth do the rest.

This is actually a great Cee Lo Green song to Deadpool.

Hit him once.

After that Ridiculous Regen him and the best he can do is just reduce it to one.

Now real quick...can anyone explain why Sabretooth has this power but Daken didnt?

this was the first thing that i wondered after having read his SP. good call on the question. for some reason i think the answer is NO. simply because it only says that "even if the power is countered/lost" it doesn't mention him being on the board. but either way, good question

if, however, the effect last regardless if soft kitty, warm kitty is KO'd then it just makes him so much more deadly

The more provocative question is how is this going to interact with the White Lantern LIVE! power. Specifically, if a White Lantern is dealt 3 clicks by Sabretooth, they click the dial twice and LIVE! appears. So they stop clicking. Can they be healed? Did they take two damage or three? (The prevailing opinion right now seems to be that they were dealt 3 clicks of damage even though they only clicked the dial twice.)

very interesting question.....Questions.
you could argue that they only took 2 damage, so not mortally wounded. i guess what was dealt differs from what was taken? but yea, thats a gooder.

That does bring up another question.

If I play the White Lantern which prevents it from being countered...which one wins?