OK, we've tried to understand this, our best Heroclix minds have tried to wrap their heads around this and all we get is confused.

What is the formula for determining the number of theme team PCs you get for different point levels? Does it matter if the team is generic or non-generic themed?

Can I get some help here? Like 4 people who have been playing for almost 10 years can't quite figure this out.

Thanks

It is based on the 300 point levels.
Generic teams get 1 PC for every 300 points of the game. Non-generic teams get 2 PCs for every 300 points of the game.

Generic:
0-300 = 1 PC
301-600 = 2 PC
601-900 = 3 PC
Etc.

Non-Generic:
0-300 = 2 PC
301-600 = 4 PC
601-900 = 6 PC
Etc.

Sure.

Theme team requires every figure to share a keyword.

Theme PC's are awarded for every increment of 300, or fraction there of.

Meaning:

Generic Theme Teams require a minimum of 1 figure for every 100 points of your build total. 3 for 300 points, 6 for 600 and so on.

Named Theme Teams require a minimum of 1 figure for every 150 points of your bild total. 2 for 300, 4 for 600, and so on.

Theme PC's: 1 for generic theme teams for every 300 points, or fraction there of.

Or, 1 for 300-599 point build totals.
Or, 2 for 600-899 point build totals.
Or, 3 for 900-1199 point build totals.
And so on...

Theme PC's: 2 for named theme teams for every 300 points, or fraction there of.

Or, 2 for 300-599 point build totals.
Or, 4 for 600-899 point build totals.
Or, 6 for 900-1199 point build totals.
And so on...

Got "Crused" by an orange as I typed...get it? Crush? Orange? HA HA Ha ha...ahem.

Fixed it for you

I thought I read that characters with PC already on their dial could not be given a token to use a theme PC. Anyone remember where this was? Or did I dream this up?

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The character using Probability Control in this way:
• Must possess the keyword that establishes the theme of the force.
• Must not have already taken a non-free action this turn.
• Must not be able to use Probability Control through another game effect.
• Must not have used Probability Control in this way earlier in the turn.
• Must be given an action token (this does not affect your Action Total for the turn).

Do all characters of a force should have the keyword in order for the force to be thematic ?
More precisely, i know i must have 2 characters with the "named" keyword x-men to be thematic, but does it mean that if my team consist of 2 characters with x-men keyword, and one other character without it, i'm still thematic ?

Do same characters (2 copies of the same non-generic character) count for theme ? Do bystanders count ?

And finally, if a character has not taken an action this turn at all, and i use it for a theme probabilty control, thus giving him one token, can i still use one of my Action Total for the turn to give him a non free action, and a second token, this same turn ?

Yes, all figures on your team must share a KW in order to qualify for the re-rolls.

Yes, you can use duplicates, as long as they are not Unique/LE figures.

Bystanders have no bearing on it either way.

No, you cannot give them a 2nd token to use the theme PC, and then give them a non free action to do something else. Once they have 2 tokens, they are 'pushed', unless they have a power/ability/game affect that allows them to act while having a 2nd token on them ----> IE a Colossal figure.

But in your example above, yes you can give a token for the theme PC, and then place a 2nd token, as long as they have not taken any action (including FREE actions) before being given the first token for the theme PC. Note again that placing the 2nd token would apply pushing Damage as normal ---> unless you have Indomitable/Willpower/Power Cosmic/Quintessence etc.

I think you misunderstood the question.

You can indeed be tokened for a theme PC use and take an action the same turn.

You just cannot take an action and then be tokened for a theme PC use in the same turn, only the other way around.

Yeah, I re-read it then went back and corrected it

Not any more. That changed again so that now once they have been given a theme pc token they can not be given another one.

See line 4 of normalview's earlier post.

• Must not have used Probability Control in this way earlier in the turn.

I know. I didn't say you could use theme PC 2x in one turn. But you can use theme PC, and receive 1 action token, and then in the same turn receive a 2nd action token by taking a non free action ------> making an attack, moving, using certain TAs (SHIELD for example). You cannot however do it the other way around IE take an action (FREE or otherwise), then use the theme PC.

You CAN Outwit or Perplex and use theme PC in the same turn. They're not non-free actions, they're just free actions.

You just cannot take a non-free action and use theme PC.

Sorry. I misread what you had wrote.

Thanks for this precision.
I understand now.

I think it's overly complicated to have it work in one order and not in the other order... For me, being able to PB then act, and not to act then PB (with the pushing of course) is just plain silly. Same with the fact that the one who is doing the action can't push to PB for himself : silly.

But even if i think that, i understand how it works "by the rules".

Thanks to everyone for the answers !