1. Is the tower on the building on the side with the aircraft outside? It is clearly outside the yellow boundry but there are no walls either.

2. Is OA indoor?

So no sniping from the tower inside

Sorry for the double post:

No flight or leap/climb from indoor to the top of the tower except from ladder?

This was changed in the 2011 rules. LOF can now be drawn from outdoors to indoors, so yes characters can shoot from the elevated terrain to the indoor portion of the map.

Characters can leap/climb and fly from the indoor portion of the map onto the tower just fine. Yellow lines have no added effect on movement.

While logically it makes no sense, I'll go with it. I mean is the roof open?

Maybe,,, perhaps there's a retractable roof that's been left open along with all the doors.

I can't wait until someone tries to fly over a wall and having to explain why doing this through the tower is legal but over the wall is not.

To piggyback...

If one were on one of elevated squares (jets) and had destroyed some of the wall between indoor/outdoor. Could they "see over" a character in one of the squares where the wall used to be to another character further inside the indoor portion?

(That is probably very confusing, but I'm tired. I'll come up with a hopefully better diagram once I have some rest.)

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A map labeled “indoor/outdoor” follows all the rules of outdoor maps, except that squares inside the yellow boundary line follow all the rules
of indoor maps. Indoor blocking terrain and indoor walls exist at all elevation levels. A wall that borders both indoor and outdoor terrain is considered to occupy both indoor and outdoor terrain.



And that's all indoor/outdoor does. It has no effect on whether or an elevated character could draw LOF over a character at a lower elevation. So the question then becomes, could your elevated character in your example normally draw LOF? If "yes", then it is still "yes". And if "no", then it is still "no". From what you describe, I can't think of anything that would normally block LOF.

It's an Escher Map.

That would make for a nice Astral Plane map. A square with stairs all leading to elevation 1. I can picture all the thread questions already.

Thank you, sir. It's how we ruled it, but it's just one of those things that "feels" weird. Didn't know if there might be some corner case ruling that would change it.

Much appreciated.

Makes no sense? It makes perfect sense, at least a lot more than it did prior to the rules change.

BEFORE The Rules Change. Any character inside the yellow line could Shoot up outside to characters outside the yellow line, but characters on the outside of the yellow line couldn't shoot back at the same characters inside the yellow line..so that red elevated square you're refering to on the Airport map. Characters inside could literally snipe people on the outside, without the people ON ELEVATED TERRAIN and clear line of fire being able to shoot back, simply because it was on the "outside" of the yellow line, and the other characters were on the "inside".

I wasn't even aware of that rule until our judge pointed it out, and me and everyone else there thought that had to be the DUMBEST rule ever.

It reminded me of soaring characters not able to shoot down