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i don't get to play very much anymore dur to how far I have to drive to do so. HCO was going to be the only way for me to continue playing more than likey. But due to how much it cost there's no way I'll dish that out. I'll just keep my old figs and trade ofr figs I want or borrow from people whenever I get to play a game now. There is no way I can justify paying a company money that seems to not care for the people that play the games they put out. I mean we reun their tournaments for them. We run the websites dedicated to their products. Serious heroclix.com is a joke and rarely kept up to date. Look how long it took them to even update the units section. Heck we are even the people that promote there product and get new people to play. In the very least they could price HCO reasonably. The way it is now you can either play online or play with real figs. I started a thread asking NECCA to lower their prices if your interested please go and post there.
I feel like it's too early for such a measure. Things could still change.
I would prefer to see the dust settle on things and see what might be ahead. If it comes down to it, we who are unhappy simply don't have to buy it. I think the message will be clear if we serious fans of the game are not putting our money into it. Who else would be expected to be the early adopters?
I urge patience and then simply expressing ourselves normally as we do via the market.
"We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -Wilde
I have no intentions of playing the online version.
any monthly fee would be too much for me, but I'm not calling for a boycott. I agree that it should be affordable, but I think everyone can make their own choices in that regard. If the price is too high, they will experience low subscriber-ship.
No offense, but your attitude is the reason things are in a sorry state. People need to let companies know that if they want our business, they have to earn it by giving us quality product at fair pricing.
NECA doesn't deserve any of my money if they believe our fanbase are so obsessed we would pay outrageous amounts for limited utility digital goods. Twelve dollars a booster may be reasonable for plastic, but not for digital content.Do you realize one booster costs more than an iTunes album?
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I feel like it's too early for such a measure. Things could still change.
I would prefer to see the dust settle on things and see what might be ahead. If it comes down to it, we who are unhappy simply don't have to buy it. I think the message will be clear if we serious fans of the game are not putting our money into it. Who else would be expected to be the early adopters?
I urge patience and then simply expressing ourselves normally as we do via the market.
I'm sorry to say it, but bluntly, this is silly. NECA may lower the price if no one seems to be buying, but starting at about MSRP for physical boosters is not at all unexpected. Undercutting the physical game by too much would risk damaging sales of the physical game.
I'm not boycotting their other products because one d-bag priced their online game so horribly, it will be talked about in the industry for years to come.
I like my physical clix, and will show that by continuing my purchases at my B&M store.
However, I will not support this HCO endevor in any form going forward. I'm thinking even if they lower prices, I'll boycott it just on principal for introducing such an arrogant pricing structure to begin with.
I'm sorry to say it, but bluntly, this is silly. NECA may lower the price if no one seems to be buying, but starting at about MSRP for physical boosters is not at all unexpected. Undercutting the physical game by too much would risk damaging sales of the physical game.
Wha... What?? You *expected* them to price them the same cost as physical boosters?
Break that down for me, won't you? What costs would Wizkids have to charge $2.39 *per figure* in a virtual environment? I can see where the cost comes from to sculpt, mold, paint, package, & ship a physical figure... but I just 'ain't seing it in an online form.
I'm sorry to say it, but bluntly, this is silly. NECA may lower the price if no one seems to be buying, but starting at about MSRP for physical boosters is not at all unexpected. Undercutting the physical game by too much would risk damaging sales of the physical game.
Not if done right.
I know playing and collecting clix is a lot different when you change mediums. When something is physical it should have worth because it costs money to buy the goods as well as manufacture. When it is digital, the material component is completely removed, so tell me why these two products have almost identical pricing when one costs substantially less to produce?
I see it as a complete sham. Price gouging to the extreme. We need to let them know and let them know early they can't continue with this. If they feel they can charge us anything, they will.
Wha... What?? You *expected* them to price them the same cost as physical boosters?
Break that down for me, won't you? What costs would Wizkids have to charge $2.39 *per figure* in a virtual environment? I can see where the cost comes from to sculpt, mold, paint, package, & ship a physical figure... but I just 'ain't seing it in an online form.
*flabbergasted*
Yes, I expected that online pricing could be in line with physical pricing. Having been a former Magic player and seeing the same complaints when Magic Online released its pricing structure, I believed that full MSRP was a likely place for HCO pricing to start. I did not say that this price will be successful, but it absolutely does not surprise me.
I'm not saying that the prices shouldn't be lowered. Obviously the cost of 5 physical HeroClix figures far outweighs that of 15 Magic cards. On the other hand you need about 35-40 different cards to build a single Magic Online deck, while only needing maybe 6 figures for most 300-point HCO teams. Regardless of all that, I don't think the current prices should come as a complete surprise to everyone.
No offense, but your attitude is the reason things are in a sorry state. People need to let companies know that if they want our business, they have to earn it by giving us quality product at fair pricing.
NECA doesn't deserve any of my money if they believe our fanbase are so obsessed we would pay outrageous amounts for limited utility digital goods. Twelve dollars a booster may be reasonable for plastic, but not for digital content.Do you realize one booster costs more than an iTunes album?
Yeah my attitude where I say 'if you don't like it, don't buy it' led the company to create a weak pricing model.
Thank goodness you didn't mean any offense, because I certainly might have taken some from your absurd reaction had you not started with that preface.
Good luck marshaling people to your cause. You've got the charisma of a Moe Howard working for ya.
"We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -Wilde
Yeah my attitude where I say 'if you don't like it, don't buy it' led the company to create a weak pricing model.
Thank goodness you didn't mean any offense, because I certainly might have taken some from your absurd reaction had you not started with that preface.
Good luck marshaling people to your cause. You've got the charisma of a Moe Howard working for ya.
You seem to think it's a sin to call for others of a like mind to band together in protest of what is, clearly, a poor move by a company that makes a game we love.
Your attitude is of apathy. For the record, you calling a boycott (a largely used and wholly effective means of sending a message to a corporation that their product needs review) "silly" is what's absurd here. You think my methods over-reacting but I call it the proper strategy to change things.
You fear taking initiative and bad mouth others with the guts. If you don't want to join my boycott, just don't! Form your own protest about my protest, do whatever you wish, just take it elsewhere for now. I don't want this argument to capture a thread meant to rally others and gauge opinion.
i mean, at least in this case, i think the market will work: people will just not pay for the online products (including those boycotting it) and they will have to lower prices if they want people to use it.
we NEED a 150 point Mr. Fantastic with cosmic-level intelligence and a Daredevil who takes no prisoners with d4-6 super-senses and ccr
Yes, I expected that online pricing could be in line with physical pricing. Having been a former Magic player and seeing the same complaints when Magic Online released its pricing structure, I believed that full MSRP was a likely place for HCO pricing to start. I did not say that this price will be successful, but it absolutely does not surprise me.
I'm not saying that the prices shouldn't be lowered. Obviously the cost of 5 physical HeroClix figures far outweighs that of 15 Magic cards. On the other hand you need about 35-40 different cards to build a single Magic Online deck, while only needing maybe 6 figures for most 300-point HCO teams. Regardless of all that, I don't think the current prices should come as a complete surprise to everyone.
I also was not surprised to see the price to be retail, I don't like it but am not surprised. Also with Magic online you can at least think "Sure I'm paying retail but if I get a whole set I can cash it in for a real set."