Can this be used with Automatic Regeneration?

My thought is that Auto Regen uses the same wording, so is not "otherwise using Regeneration through this power"

You can't do the same free action twice. That is how I would rule it

Auto Regen: Prerequisites: Regeneration
Choose a character.

At the beginning of your turn, this character uses Regeneration as a free action.

Manhunter Grandmaster's "But I want to die" power reads: At the beginning of your turn, Manhunter Grandmaster uses Regeneration as a free action, but can't otherwise use it through this power.

I would have to say no that he cannot use this power in tandem with Auto Regen since Auto Regen says "this character uses" and the Special power specifically states "can't use this power otherwise.

Auto Regen was the first thing I thought of when I read his Special Power. I thought they worded it very well. He can't Auto Regen with it, and it isn't available for "copying" by GSX Rogue's Power Absorbtion.

I like it. I like it a lot.

he can onyl use Regen as directed. thus he can't use it to satisfy the feat card. or thats what i say

While I suspect that it will be ruled as you've all stated, I think the wording of the power has the possibility to skirt the intention.

I agree with the judgement, however, you can use the same free action twice as long as it comes from a different Source. Example, Nico can use her regular perplex and the perplex granted by her SP simultaneously.

Unless Game Design wants you to. Just ask Magog!

In order to use the Auto Regen feat you need to be able to use the regeration power, other than the way outlined in "but I want to die", regeneration can't be used, so he wouldn't meet the pre-requisite.

I disagree with that assessment. He can use it in a limited manner. It's no different than Trick Shot on the new Deadshot.

The feat allows for the power to be used the exact same way as the special power itself. The stipulation on the special power is that it cannot otherwise be used through this power.

It's different because the ability to allow characters or hindering to be ignored with trick shot is simply something that happens, which is why you can use it but don't have to be using Ranged Combat Expert (or plasticity for that matter) in the attack. Automatic Regeneration is a free action, something that requires activating. Additionally, Dead-Shot's power isn't explicit in stating that it can't be used in other ways, rather it has more conditions required to activate it (must be in hindering, must have no action tokens).

I see what you're saying, 7, I just disagree with your reading of But I Want to Die.

The only thing he has Regen for is to roll at the beginning of the turn (and he MUST roll). Beyond that he has no Regen to meet the prereq.

The latest word from GD is that Excessive Force will be once per turn.

Man, I read the title of this thread and got really depressed......

Does the power work as usual with War Zone and Radiation Leak?


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