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Someone needs to take the pricing section down because most of the prices are wrong. It is not at all helpful and is in fact bad for the people that follow those prices
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Quote : Originally Posted by PaxZRake
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Someone needs to take the pricing section down because most of the prices are wrong. It is not at all helpful and is in fact bad for the people that follow those prices
Which prices are wrong? From ones I have checked, they are fairly close like SR Valkyrie and SR Deadpool.
Just saying get rid of it without info, isn't really going to go over well.
We use a 3rd party system, so we have no control over who participates. I believe it's better than nothing. Even if the prices are wrong, the trend is still going to be accurate (going up/down). Just give it time ... eventually I'll probably jsut accept a direct feed from various retailers and mix it into the pricing. I'm also working on bringing in ebay prices.
Well the site that people use most often is troll and toad. The prices arent even close to accurate for anything over 10 dollars. For example deadpool is marked at 45 here and is 65 on t&t. Or even a the larfleeze piece is marked for at most 10 and on t&t its 15 and on ebay the lowest price is 10 and thats only because it has one bid so far
Give me Zoo Crew or give me Death
Then again feel free to ignore me (like people usually do )
Quote : Originally Posted by PaxZRake
I am actually typing this while banging my head against my keyboard and my rage is forming the words on the computer screen.
We use a 3rd party system, so we have no control over who participates. I believe it's better than nothing. Even if the prices are wrong, the trend is still going to be accurate (going up/down). Just give it time ... eventually I'll probably jsut accept a direct feed from various retailers and mix it into the pricing. I'm also working on bringing in ebay prices.
I personally believe ebay is the best way to accurately evaluate a figure's current value. If you can really bring in ebay prices then the units section pricing system would rule above all other websites bar none.
Bringing in ebay prices is the most accurate way to present... ebay prices. Nothing else.
See, people, prices don't come in "accurate" or "inaccurate". Different places charge different amounts. The same place charges different amounts on different days.
My brother picked up a copy of New Teen Titans #2 (a generally expensive issue) in the 25 cent box on a convention floor. Does that mean Overstreet's price for that issue is inaccurate? That's not even a reasonable question.
Price guides, any price guide, can only really do one thing, present numbers culled from multiple sources. The more sources used, the more generally useful the price guide is, but let's not delude ourselves that "accurate!" is something a price guide can ever be. The beast does not work that way.
Well the site that people use most often is troll and toad. The prices arent even close to accurate for anything over 10 dollars. For example deadpool is marked at 45 here and is 65 on t&t. Or even a the larfleeze piece is marked for at most 10 and on t&t its 15 and on ebay the lowest price is 10 and thats only because it has one bid so far
You've got to stop assuming things.
I've used Troll and Toad once and I've been collecting since 2004. I can find just about anything the same price or even cheaper on eBay.
Personally, I think Troll and Toad is garbage. It's just like using the "Buy it Now" section on eBay, you are paying for pretty much the highest price that someone can get away with selling the piece or pieces for.
Bringing in ebay prices is the most accurate way to present... ebay prices. Nothing else.
See, people, prices don't come in "accurate" or "inaccurate". Different places charge different amounts. The same place charges different amounts on different days.
No, using e-Bay completed auction prices is perhaps *the* most accurate way to gauge what a figure is worth on the secondary market.
You can see 1) what people were *actually* paying for a figure and not just what some random website has it listed at *hoping* it will sell at that price, and 2) what prices people *won't* pay for the figure by seeing the incomplete auctions.
Fluctuations in the market are seen on e-Bay first, then will filter down to the store level a week or two after they have trended on e-Bay. For that reason alone it is far more accurate then using the online vendor pool that Typhon is using.
No, using e-Bay completed auction prices is perhaps *the* most accurate way to gauge what a figure is worth on the secondary market.
You can see 1) what people were *actually* paying for a figure and not just what some random website has it listed at *hoping* it will sell at that price, and 2) what prices people *won't* pay for the figure by seeing the incomplete auctions.
Fluctuations in the market are seen on e-Bay first, then will filter down to the store level a week or two after they have trended on e-Bay. For that reason alone it is far more accurate then using the online vendor pool that Typhon is using.
Suttkus' point was that people might still be buying things for whatever price they are listed at on those other sites. Does that make those prices less accurate? No. ebay is just as valid as any other online listing. Nothing about it is more or less accurate than what other places have it listed at.
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No, using e-Bay completed auction prices is perhaps *the* most accurate way to gauge what a figure is worth on the secondary market.
You can see 1) what people were *actually* paying for a figure and not just what some random website has it listed at *hoping* it will sell at that price, and 2) what prices people *won't* pay for the figure by seeing the incomplete auctions.
Fluctuations in the market are seen on e-Bay first, then will filter down to the store level a week or two after they have trended on e-Bay. For that reason alone it is far more accurate then using the online vendor pool that Typhon is using.
Except that the prices in the units section reflect the prices that people *actually* paid for figures on the sites that are sponsors here. While I agree that ebay can give you a pretty good judge of price (heck I use it for that all the time) the prices on ebay can be all over the place based on a various number of things even as dumb as the time the auction is ending.
Incomplete auctions aren't really a judge of what people "won't pay" as I've seen auctions with lower prices (including shipping) not get any bids and more expensive ones have bidding wars.
Ebay is filled with idiots (as is the rest of the world).
For example, when someone is bidding on a video game, and the current price (With a bid on it) is $10 after shipping and there's another one that ends 2 hours later, with no bids, and would also have the first bid of $10.. But instead idiot guy will apparently think he'll get his item 2 hours earlier and bids on the already bid on one and drives the price up to 11 or 12 bucks..
I can't tell you how many times that type of thing has happened to me and I go and bid on the one that was 2 hours later and win it for the original bid price.
So ebay while it CAN show you prices is no more accurate or inaccurate than webstores that also sell product. If we were listing the prices that were listed in the back of a magazine then you'd have a point, but unfortunately the point is invalidated when you're trying to argue a store is not actually selling product.
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If you're buying/or trying to gauge prices on anything above Rares through TnT you're looking in the wrong places. For individual pieces I will buy generics and the occasional filler piece from TnT, CSI, and SZO.
And if you want to see the true value of a piece to an online seller; check out their Buy Lists. Usually it's 1/2 to 2/3 of their retail asking price.
WOS SR Deadpool
TnT retail: $64.99
TnT buy price: $45.00
SZO retail: $68.02
SZO buy price: $44.46
HC Realms units section: $47.99
eBay completed listings search on "WOS SR Deadpool":
Marvel Heroclix Deadpool SR Web of Spider-Man WoS
Returns: Not acceptedView similar active items | Sell one like this 1 Bid
Sold $40.00 Time left: Jan-24 00:59
DEADPOOL 057 #57 Web of Spider-Man Marvel HeroClix WoS Super Rare SR
Returns: Accepted within 7 daysView similar active items | Sell one like this Buy It Now
Sold $57.95
Free Shipping Time left: Jan-22 09:18
Moral of the story... Don't price your stuff by TnT's retail asking price. Most people aren't willing to pay that...
Quote : Originally Posted by Herrbrane
Well the site that people use most often is troll and toad. The prices arent even close to accurate for anything over 10 dollars. For example deadpool is marked at 45 here and is 65 on t&t. Or even a the larfleeze piece is marked for at most 10 and on t&t its 15 and on ebay the lowest price is 10 and thats only because it has one bid so far
Folks use the relative sites to gauge ballpark values. So T&T has the two figures in question at $65-67. Realms has said figures at $45-47.
So what you're saying is that the prices may be showing differently, but the relative value is the same.
Unless you're the one that says,"Our figures are $67 on T&T. Ours are $45 on Realms. So I value mine at $67 and yours at $45. You need to add more on your end." Then it doesn't really matter.
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And this I agree with 100%. A seller is going to want his figure to be worth $65.00 when he sells it. As a buyer, possibly that same person, will want the figure to be priced at $45.00.
I'm just assuming Herrbrane is a seller of course.
Quote : Originally Posted by Mr. Cranberry
...Unless you're the one that says,"Our figures are $67 on T&T. Ours are $45 on Realms. So I value mine at $67 and yours at $45. You need to add more on your end." Then it doesn't really matter.