My Team's Better Than Your Team: Late 1970s JLA vs. Avengers

Welcome to a new flyingicarus and Gargantua production.

Here is a proposed series of games meant to counter-point our bigger or more involved games.

The premise is simple. We start at 800 points to use (to be adjusted if needed). Feats and relics may be used but nothing else and can be used up to 10% of the total cost.


Asgardians vs Kryptonians
Fantastic Four vs Cap's Kooky Quartet
70s JLA vs 70s Avengers

This is not to say we couldn't do the Inhumans vs Great Ten. Any match is game.

The winner chooses his next line up for the other player to match with a team of their own.

Score board:

Spider-Man enemies win over Batman enemies

April 1979. New York City. It's uncharacteristically cold for spring.

"Beautiful day," Iron Man says.

"Says the man in armor," Wasp replies, "Even my wings have ice on them!".

"Aretheyhereyet? Aretheyhereyet?" the Beast asks.

"Relax Beast," Wonder Man says, "They'll be here soon enough."

"Are you alright darling? You're awfully quiet," the Scarlet Witch asks the Vision.

"Not at all, my wife, I am looking forward to seeing Red Tornado again. I do hope he shows," the Vision replies.

"Jocasta, I'm just checking in, the event should be starting soon," Captain America says looking up at a sign, "Welcome to the annual Justice League and Avengers brawl for Muscular Dystrophy."

"Everything is fine here, Captain," Jocasta says from monitor duty, "It's a quiet day."

"Ah, the League is....here," his voice drifts off as he sees the intimidating roster of Leaguers arrive.

"Jocasta....could you reach out to some of our reserves. I think we're going to need back up," Cap adds.

80 AN013 Green Arrow
125 FFJL002 Superman
67 CD072 Red Tornado
62 SOG003 Black Canary
95 JL52011 Hawkman
71 BD004 Hawkgirl
88 JL52017 The Flash
72 JL028 Zatanna
95 JL52009 Firestorm
50 CJ222 The Atom
136 JL52003 Wonder Woman
125 FFGL001 Green Lantern
58 CD041 Elongated Man
75 JL001 Batman
1199

I rolled a 6. You PMed me that you had rolled a 4, so I get my map choice.

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"Captain, it's good to see you," Superman said, landing and shaking Captain America's hand.

"This is quite a crowd you've brought," Captain America said, looking at the full Justicel League of America roster.

"Well you know," the Flash said, "it's such a great cause everybody wanted to get involved. Even Batman," he added in a stage whisper.

"You ready for an archery contest?" Hawkeye asked Green Arrow.

"Are you kidding me? I'll wipe the floor with you," Green Arrow retorted.

"In your dreams!" Hawkeye said.

"Hawkeye! Be nice!" Wasp scolded him.

"Oh, let them have their fun," the Atom told her. "It a good natured rivalry."

Don't forget to add feats, up to 120 points, right?

SI057 Jarvis (Dissent) X17
7 FFB002 Henry Peter Gyrich W17
62 AW053 Quicksilver (Swingline) W13
75 FFCW006 Scarlet Witch W8
120 M10A016 Thor (Fortitude) W9
75 AVM001 Captain America W11
75 CW014 Hank Pym (Brilliant Tactician) X9
50 FFCW004 Wasp (Pym Particles) X12
118 CW028 Wonder Man (Protected) W16
110 CW023 Ms. Marvel W14
160 SV217 Iron Man (Stunning Blow) W10
95 CW013 Vision (Protected) X11
95 GX010 Beast W15
57 SN057 Falcon (Drag) W12
65 AVM208 Hawkeye (Nanobots) X13
1200

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Are we allowing double feats? You've got two Protected in the mix there.

AN013 Green Arrow (Trick Shot) A10
FFJL002 Superman (Repulsor Shield) B10
CD072 Red Tornado B12
SOG003 Black Canary A11
JL52011 Hawkman B11
BD004 Hawkgirl B13
JL52017 The Flash (Swingline) A13
JL028 Zatanna B9
JL52009 Firestorm B14
CJ222 The Atom (Brilliant Tactician) A9
JL52003 Wonder Woman (Fortitude) B15
FFGL001 Green Lantern (Elite Sniper) B8
CD041 Elongated Man A13
JL001 Batman A14

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Cripes. So many figures. No idea what to do with all of them.

First, a map link that shows my objects: http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...46&u12=x830y44

Superman to J6, picking up the LO from G7

Hawkman to H12, taxiing Black Canary to I12

Hawkgirl to J5, with Flash in tow to I5

Zatanna to H13, Atom to I13

Firestorm to G18, H18 for Batman

Wonder Woman to E13, with Ralph to F12. She picks up the HO on the way.

GL to D9

Whew!

AN013 Green Arrow (Trick Shot) A10
FFJL002 Superman (Repulsor Shield) @ J6 (w/LO)
CD072 Red Tornado B12
SOG003 Black Canary I12 (Stealth)
JL52011 Hawkman @ H12
BD004 Hawkgirl @ J5
JL52017 The Flash (Swingline) I5
JL028 Zatanna @ H13
JL52009 Firestorm @ G18
CJ222 The Atom (Brilliant Tactician) @ I13 (Stealth)
JL52003 Wonder Woman (Fortitude) @ E13
FFGL001 Green Lantern (Elite Sniper) @ D9
CD041 Elongated Man F12
JL001 Batman H18

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It is a crazy number of figures. I thought the Sinister Syndicate was bad! Next time I think I'll play the Fantastic Four!

As for the feat duplication, did we iron that out? I didn't think that would matter but I'm open to limiting it. Let me know and next turn I can do some swapping. I doubt it will matter this round.

Vision to S8.

Hate to do this right off the bat. Wasp makes Thor's range 9. He'll rs to Q13 and target Canary & Atom. Gets 11. I don' think your pc can help. I'll do 2 to both. Sorry, I hate doing this right out of the gate.

Falc appropriately flies Cap to R16, he's R17.

Jarvis moves in place.

Wonder Man carries Beast to T7, he's T6.

Wanda tugs Thor back to W9.

SI057 Jarvis (Dissent) @ X17
7 FFB002 Henry Peter Gyrich W17
62 AW053 Quicksilver (Swingline) W13
75 FFCW006 Scarlet Witch W8
120 M10A016 Thor (Fortitude) @ W9
75 AVM001 Captain America R16
75 CW014 Hank Pym (Brilliant Tactician) X9
50 FFCW004 Wasp (Pym Particles) X12
118 CW028 Wonder Man (Protected) @ T6
110 CW023 Ms. Marvel W14
160 SV217 Iron Man (Stunning Blow) W10
95 CW013 Vision (Protected) @ S8
95 GX010 Beast T7
57 SN057 Falcon (Drag) @ R17
65 AVM208 Hawkeye (Nanobots) X13


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The Avengers, their reserves and allies line up.

On the right are Jarvis and Gyrich.

Adjacent to them are Captain America and Falcon. "Jarvis! Henry! What are you doing here?" Cap asks.

"I wouldn't miss this for the world, sir," Jarvis says.

"Me too, besides Jarvis is giving me his bread pudding recipe. It's out of this world," Gyrich replies.

Next to Falcon; the Beast, Wonder Man, the Scarlet Witch and the Vision are gathered in a circle.

"I tell ya, Vizh, you'd be perfect for the Thing's weekly Friday night card party. I mean no one has a better poker face than you."

"I will take that under advisement, Beast," the Vision responds.

Alongside Vision, Quicksilver speaks with the Wasp and Henry Pym.

"I see you're not in your Yellowjacket costume, Henry, is this wise?" Quicksilver asks.

"The big lug's got a bug, Pietro, ironic isn't it, Yellowjacket's got a bug, but Dr. Blake says he should take it easy a day or two," the Wasp says.

"That's really bad timing," Pym says, "Fortunately I've come prepared with costumes and Pym particles just in case."

Standing by Henry is Ms. Marvel, Thor and Iron Man.

"I'm glad you had Jocasta call in the reserves, fearless leader," Ms. Marvel says to Iron Man, "Thor, Quicksilver, Hawkeye and Yellowjacket will be really helpful on this one, I bet."

"No doubt, Carol Danvers," says Thor, "But the Avengers are ever-ready to do their duty, either in play or in real battle. As long as one Avenger still breathes the world is our to protect and serve."

"Took the words right out of my mouth, Goldilocks," Iron Man says.

I don't mind that. I expected this to get ugly right out of the gate.

Now that, I mind.

GA to G12

GL to G7

AN013 Green Arrow (Trick Shot) @ G12
FFJL002 Superman (Repulsor Shield) J6 (w/LO)
CD072 Red Tornado B12
SOG003 Black Canary I12 (Stealth)(2)
JL52011 Hawkman H12
BD004 Hawkgirl J5
JL52017 The Flash (Swingline) I5
JL028 Zatanna H13
JL52009 Firestorm G18
CJ222 The Atom (Brilliant Tactician) I13 (2)
JL52003 Wonder Woman (Fortitude) E13
FFGL001 Green Lantern (Elite Sniper) @@ G7
CD041 Elongated Man F12
JL001 Batman H18

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"Hitting and running, Thor? That doesn't sound like you," Green Arrow called after him. "Is that the Asgardian way? Or just how the Avengers fight?"

"He speaks true. Wanda, thou shouldst not have pulled me back from yon battle," Thor admitted.

"Thor, this is a game. He's trash talking you," the Scarlet Witch said.

"I know not this trash talk."

"It means he's trying to rile you," Iron Man clarified, "with verbal jabs and insults."

"Oh. Aye," Thor nodded in understanding. Yet he still seemed troubled.

Really nice story post. It's fun to see an ancient and eternal God out of the loop with modern Americanisms and yet it is wholly appropriate that he is.

Jarv moves in place.

Forgot to roll for battlefield tokens for Thor: 4.

Other than that, I got nothin'.

Wasp will boost Vision's dv by 1.



SI057 Jarvis (Dissent) @@ (1) X17
7 FFB002 Henry Peter Gyrich W17
62 AW053 Quicksilver (Swingline) W13
75 FFCW006 Scarlet Witch W8
120 M10A016 Thor (Fortitude) W9 (1 promotional token)
75 AVM001 Captain America R16
75 CW014 Hank Pym (Brilliant Tactician) X9
50 FFCW004 Wasp (Pym Particles) X12
118 CW028 Wonder Man (Protected) T6
110 CW023 Ms. Marvel W14
160 SV217 Iron Man (Stunning Blow) W10
95 CW013 Vision (Protected) S8
95 GX010 Beast T7
57 SN057 Falcon (Drag) R17
65 AVM208 Hawkeye (Nanobots) X13

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Damned if I know what to do here. I still don't really have a shot at you, yet advancing further just opens me up for another first strike.

Superman to P8

Hawkman with Black Canary, P9 for him, Q9 for her. Mas as well continue to use her as a shield since you've hit her already

Zatanna taxis Atom, O9 for her P10 for him. Ditto.

Hawkgirl to R5, Q5 for Flash

WW to I15, I14 for Ralph

Reddy to H13

AN013 Green Arrow (Trick Shot) G12
FFJL002 Superman (Repulsor Shield) @ P8 (w/LO)
CD072 Red Tornado @ H13
SOG003 Black Canary Q9 (Stealth)(2)
JL52011 Hawkman @ P9
BD004 Hawkgirl @ R5
JL52017 The Flash (Swingline) Q5
JL028 Zatanna @ O9
JL52009 Firestorm G18
CJ222 The Atom (Brilliant Tactician) P10 (2)
JL52003 Wonder Woman (Fortitude) @ I15
FFGL001 Green Lantern (Elite Sniper) G7
CD041 Elongated Man I14
JL001 Batman H18

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"Incoming! Here they come!" Ms. Marvel shouted as the Justice League advanced.

"I say, it does make for an impressive sight, doesn't it?" Jarvis turned to Gyrich and asked.

"It does," Gyrich admitted.

"You want impressive? You haven't even seen us in action yet," Hawkeye pointed out.

Wonder Man charges to S4, placing Beast in S3 and going for Flash. Needs 7, rolls 11. SS is 6.

Beast outwits his ss.

Vision charges to R4 attacking Flash. Needs 7, rolls 9. 3 to him. You can move Flash one square since he evaded Simon's attack but really it wouldn't change Vision's movement or hit.

Iron Man vs. Atom. Needs 8, rolls 5. Wanda can't help.

Thor vs. Atom. Needs 8, rolls 4. Wanda can help here and gets 10 ( 2 5s). Atom's out. Thor rolls 3 for his promotion, no upgrade.

Ms. M charges to R10 grabbing the LO in S10 attacking Hawkman. Needs 7, gets 7. Am I right that you have no pc in lof? 5 to Hawkman. Sorry to say this may be more one sided than it really should be. Or course you haven't used Superman yet.


Hawkeye rs to W16 attacking Hawkman. Needs 7, rolls 5.

Quicksilver hss to Q10 attacking Hawkman. Needs 7, rolls 3. He ends where he began.

Cap rs to R15 attacking Zee. Needs 5, rolls 9. She rerolls 9. SS is 6.




SI057 Jarvis (Dissent) (1) X17
7 FFB002 Henry Peter Gyrich W17
62 AW053 Quicksilver (Swingline) @ W13
75 FFCW006 Scarlet Witch W8
120 M10A016 Thor (Fortitude) @ W9 (2 promotional tokens)
75 AVM001 Captain America @ R15
75 CW014 Hank Pym (Brilliant Tactician) X9
50 FFCW004 Wasp (Pym Particles) X12
118 CW028 Wonder Man (Protected) @ S4
110 CW023 Ms. Marvel @ R10
160 SV217 Iron Man (Stunning Blow) @ W10
95 CW013 Vision (Protected) @ R4
95 GX010 Beast S3
57 SN057 Falcon (Drag) R17
65 AVM208 Hawkeye (Nanobots) @ W16

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