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I used the first Galactus as part of a team (Using His Original Rules and an errata that later specified he is not affected by Exploit weakness, among others) and had some questions when using Galactus Original Rules:
1) By reading Galactus rules, Originally he does not receive damage for continuously doing an action each turn. Is that correct?
2) Reading his special power Cosmic Multiattack where you give Galactus a power action; it can take three free actions. These free actions can be close or ranged combat, move, or power actions.
That means he can for example move 2 times on the map and make 1 attack
or 1 move and make 2 close combat attacks
or 1 move and make 2 range combat attacks
Is that right?
Actions
Galactus can be given one action during its player’s turn.
Galactus can be pushed even when it has two action tokens; it does not take pushing damage. If you assign an action to Galactus when it already has two action tokens, do not mark it with another action token.
Cosmic Multiattack
Give Galactus a power action; it can take three free actions. These free actions can be close or ranged combat, move, or power actions. This power can be used only once during each of your turns, and it cannot be countered or lost.
You cannot activate the same effect twice as a free action
You could, for example, basic move then use phasing/teleport to move again but you could not do either one twice
Galactus could move, close combat attack and then ranged combat attack out from who he attacked in close because he is a colossal
Just not the same thing twice
3)So he can only move then do a range attack, then a close combat attack?
4)Could he make the range and close combat attacks agents the same target character?
5)Does the explanation apply to the multiattack power of other Colossal Figures?
Meaning if the colossal makes a range attack then the second attack can only be a close combat, Right? And does the close combat attack needs to be agents a different character or can it be agents the same opposing character that received the range attack?
6) Was there a clarification from Wizkids for those powers? Beacuse Looking at those Two powers (MULTIATTACK and cosmic MULTIATTACK) I saw nothing that would make me think that once the character makes a range attack he can not make a second range attack as his second free action.
MULTIATTACK (optional)
Give this character a power action. It may use two free actions against up to two targets. These free actions may consist of power actions, close combat actions, and ranged combat actions, though free actions gained from this power cannot be used to activate this power. Make an attack roll for each attack, if any. Any damage dealt from one of these attacks is reduced by 1, minimum 1 damage.
Cosmic Multiattack
Give Galactus a power action; it can take three free actions. These free actions can be close or ranged combat, move, or power actions. This power can be used only once during each of your turns, and it cannot be countered or lost.
The rule you're running into is actually the same rule that keeps people from using, say, outwit 400 times in one turn: You can only ever activate any specific game effect with a free action once in a turn (per character, obviously).
3) It largely depends on what powers are showing on his dial. If he has, say, Pulse Wave available, he could use Pulse Wave, and fire a Ranged Attack (As, while both are Ranged Combat Actions, they're not the same ranged combat action) and then also make a melee attack. I think that would even work if he had Penetrating/Psychic Blast available, making one ranged attack with it and one without (though I'll admit I'm not 100% sure on that one. Think it works the same as the previous though).
4) Yep, given the text of Cosmic Multiattack, you can target the same person with 3 attacks if you're so inclined (and you can manage to make 3 attacks, see point 3 about powers).
5) The way it works in 3 is the same way it works for everyone with Multiattack in some form. In fact, I believe the current up to date text for Multiattack is just:
Give this character a power action. It can be given any two actions as free actions. This ability can't be countered.
No limits or targeting requirements or anything, nothing to get you down except the Damage Depletion Modifier and whatever the heck the name of the "No duplicating free actions" rule is.
3) It largely depends on what powers are showing on his dial. If he has, say, Pulse Wave available, he could use Pulse Wave, and fire a Ranged Attack (As, while both are Ranged Combat Actions, they're not the same ranged combat action) and then also make a melee attack. I think that would even work if he had Penetrating/Psychic Blast available, making one ranged attack with it and one without (though I'll admit I'm not 100% sure on that one. Think it works the same as the previous though).
4) Yep, given the text of Cosmic Multiattack, you can target the same person with 3 attacks if you're so inclined (and you can manage to make 3 attacks, see point 3 about powers).
5) The way it works in 3 is the same way it works for everyone with Multiattack in some form. In fact, I believe the current up to date text for Multiattack is just:
Give this character a power action. It can be given any two actions as free actions. This ability can't be countered.
No limits or targeting requirements or anything, nothing to get you down except the Damage Depletion Modifier and whatever the heck the name of the "No duplicating free actions" rule is.
That part about two range attacks with different powers sounds good.
7)So could Galactus use Psychic Blast and then make a second range attack, but that attack would need to be without Psychic Blast?
8) If a character with multiattack has for example Psychic Blast and Ranage combat expert could he make those two range attacks using the multiattack power?
7) Yep, that's how I understand it, buuuuuut I'd like someone to back me up on this as, to be honest, I've heard more rules discussions *about* figures with Multi Attack than have ever actually seen one or had it play out in front of me.
8) Good news! Even if there was some sort of rule that just kept you from taking 2 Ranged Attack Actions, Ranged Combat Expert is actually a Power Action to use, so not only are they not the same action, they're not even the same action type. You should be good to go on that one.
9)If I use the original Galactus in a modern game. Do I still use his original rules?
10)Meaning he does not receive damage for continuously doing an action each turn. Is that correct?
11) He still uses his special power "Cosmic Multiattack"?
12)Reading his special power "Cosmic Multiattack" I see that originally he did not had to modify his damage value by -1 for every subsequent attack after the first one. Does that mean that the Damage Depletion Modifier Rule does not apply to him?
DAMAGE DEPLETION MODIFIER(2014-HeroClix-Core-Rulebook page 10)
Each time an attack resolves, modify the attacker’s damage value by -1 (minimum 1) until the end of the turn.
13) I had read an old errata for the first original Galactus, that said that in the indoor and outdoor map he can move through blocking terrain and destroys it as he moves through them is that still so?
14)If I use the Colossal Spectre form the "Colateral Damage Exapansion". Do I use the new version for Multiattack Power or do I need to use the Multiattack Power as explained in his rules?
MULTIATTACK (optional) (Original Spectre Rules)
Give this character a power action. It may use two free actions against up to two targets. These free actions may consist of power actions, close combat actions, and
ranged combat actions, though free actions gained from this power cannot be used to active this power. Make an attack roll for each attack, if any. Any damage dealt by one of these attacks is reduced by 1, minimum 1 damage. Multiattack cannot be countered or lost.
MULTIATTACK (2014-HeroClix-Powers-and-Abilities-Card)
Give this character a power action. It can be given any 2 actions as free actions. This ability can’t be countered.
15) If I use the Colossal Spectre in a modern game. Does his original rule that he does not receive damage if he continues to take actions every turn still apply?
For both Spectre and Galactus you use the rules for taking actions every turn. They do not have to use colossal stamina.
All figures are subject to the Damage depletion modifier.
All rules for any character are valid until they are redefined or updated by errata. Galactus still destroys terrain as he moves through it.
As far as multi-attack goes (and cosmic multi-attack) you can be given the same type of action to activate different effects. Unless I am misunderstanding the rules, there is no reason why Galactus can't use a ranged combat action to make an attack, and then use a ranged combat action to use penetrating psychic blast.
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For both Spectre and Galactus you use the rules for taking actions every turn. They do not have to use colossal stamina.
All figures are subject to the Damage depletion modifier.
All rules for any character are valid until they are redefined or updated by errata. Galactus still destroys terrain as he moves through it.
As far as multi-attack goes (and cosmic multi-attack) you can be given the same type of action to activate different effects. Unless I am misunderstanding the rules, there is no reason why Galactus can't use a ranged combat action to make an attack, and then use a ranged combat action to use penetrating psychic blast.
So, Spectre and Galactus do not use colossal stamina. They can be given actions every turn and never receive 1 unavoidable damage because of that, Is That correct?
Damage depletion modifier means the damage affected is the second attack, onward, meaning first attack does full damage, second attack does -1 damage, and third does -1+-1 or -2, Is that correct?
So, Spectre would use the modern definition of multi-attack ability, right?
So, Spectre and Galactus do not use colossal stamina. They can be given actions every turn and never receive 1 unavoidable damage because of that, Is That correct?
Damage depletion modifier means the damage affected is the second attack, onward, meaning first attack does full damage, second attack does -1 damage, and third does -1+-1 or -2, Is that correct?
So, Spectre would use the modern definition of multi-attack ability, right?
The only one whose Multi-Attack doesn't use the current definition of Multi-Attack is the original Galactus because his is defined as Cosmic Multi-Attack, not just Multi-Attack.