[Mods, please move this if there's a better place for it]

Due to some rules questions that will never be answered (such as what happens when you play the Knockout Gas BFC and someone has the Net Construct) and wild differences among venues and play groups, I'd like to get a group of rules-minded people together to create a document that can serve as a set of standards that venues and play groups can use as shorthand for what people can expect in absence of official WizKids rules on a given subject.

For example, I'd like to create something people can use as a standardized Highlander rule. I'd like to have a framework people can use for rulings on Feats and BFCs now that WizKids won't rule on them anymore. If we can create things like these, instead of a venue's house rules spelling them all out in the WKES the House Rules can instead simply say "This venue uses OpenClix Standards" and link to them.

I'd like to put a team together because I'll admit to tending toward creating complex rules when they could be simpler. I'd also rather get more input than just what runs through my grease-painted head for the sake of inviting more diverse ideas. If you're up for it, post here.

If you'd like to see my demo document, click here.
Here's the Word version instead.

By the way, I should have each of the documents in this thread set so that people can make comments.

Will you be updating this document with every rules change? If so, I'm in.

I will be more than happy to give my opinion on any of the questions you have regarding Feats and BFCs.

eg the Net - Knockout Gas Question...
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpo...4&postcount=13

However as much as I enjoy House Rules I am going to stay away from those things in this forum as much as I can.

I love House Rules and they work for me, mostly because I use them when I play in my own home. I use them a lot less these days as almost all of my old house rules have slowly become real rules.

Highlander can be particularly difficult because there is a wide variety of interpretations for that House Rule. To lay down some exact wording to meet various interpretations can quickly become cumbersome. Some people use the terms generic and identity in those discussion. However those are not well defined clix terms.

I think that by attempting to codify Highlander and Silver Age, you're setting yourself up for failure. Let house rules be house rules.

As for any attempt to streamline other elements, I applaud you for the vast undertaking you are beginning! I will even offer my assistance if you like.

I've been creating documents like this for years, just not for use outside of very narrow groups. I'd be happy to add some input.

Currently all that is there is the highlander rule. I've found the "real name" thing to not work at all. I'll use myself as an example as to why:

I've never read any comic book, ever. When I see real name highlander teams I sometimes end up asking why there are several Batman characters, or multiples of anyone really. I get responses each time, but have no possible way of knowing what I can use as opposed to what my opponent can use. "This one is Bruce, this one is Damian, this one is Alfred in the batsuit, this one is....." just doesn't cut it for me, they are ALL "Batman" because if I attempted to field them that is how it would get ruled against me.

If highlander rule is in effect, it needs to cover everything that does not specifically reference multiples of the character in it's powers. In these cases, many copies of the character is intended by design and card text overrules rules text as it always does. That's one each, be it Con Artist or Superman, including any alternate versions (identified from LE's with exact sculpts or alter egos).

Aren't Con Artists pretty much the reason the highlander rule was started anyway? I don't understand not including generics.

I see it as becoming an ongoing project. I'd like to make sure it's reviewed at least quarterly an updated if need be.

IceHot, the Knockout Gas/Net question is precisely what made me realize I should finally get an effort like this together. I figured I should have a separate file for rulings from general standards and practices.

Edit: Ace0Spadez83, you've spurred me to make a small edit to record the bulleted provisions of the Highlander rule there as optional add-ons that may be adopted individually. Additionally, to both you and rorschachparadox: Welcome aboard! As for codifying Silver Age and Highlander, all these are being offered as are standards that are easy to link to. It's not like I can force them on anyone, after all. I figure they can be referred to as "In addition to Golden and Modern Ages, this venue also recognizes Silver Age as defined by OpenClix Standards. We also observe the OpenClix Highlander Rule with the Generic Exemption."

I can sorta dig that. :shrug:

In most cases, carded figures have a "real name" designation on the back of their card, which is what one of my venues uses as the "real name" for the Highlander rule. If there is an actual game design reasoning for fielding 2 figures with the same name (like say bm056 Batman (Kal-El) and bm001 Batman (Bruce Wayne)), then we think it should be allowed. But if you're putting out figures and just assigning them identities, even though they were created with a specific identity in mind ("this bm001 Batman is Bruce and this bm001 is Dick and this bm001 is...") then that kind of ruins the "spirit" our venue tries to keep in the games.

That is not to say there aren't exceptions. I played a "Clone Saga" team with several ws007 Spider-men and a ws047 Jackal, which nobody had a problem with.

By the way, I added an example to the Highlander Rule.

You are now my hero.

Perfect use of in game text to clean that up.

I'll start exploring feat + battlefield + map rules + resource interactions to see if I can come up with anything that stands out. Shouldn't be too many options to analyze, just a couple hundred thousand which is honestly not harder than tic tac toe. But first, holiday weekend ahead with the kids.

Right! It's not like we're in a hurry. Personally, after tonight's Halloween party (my daughter apparently doesn't like trick-or-treating so she wanted a party instead) I'm going to be trying to figure out specifics on how to blow people's minds using Starro in 1,300 Golden.

Edit: We'll need to compile an appendix for set abbreviations.

I say HCRealms should just come up with a "Standardized Golden Age House Rules"

assuming the ultimate intention is to create a comprehensive rules document. I'm in.

That is a pet project I was going to try and put together during my winter break anyway.

Does anyone have a list of the set abbreviations HCR uses? I figure we may as well just use those, except in the case of WKM and WKD, as those are actually WK D-XXX or WK M-XXX and just seem to be split in the Units section for the sake of finding them more easily.