First, his card:

Kree Private 007a
MINION: NEW ORDERS If a friendly character with the Kree keyword and higher point value is within 8 squares, Kree Private can use Sidestep. If there are at least two such characters, Kree Private can also use Incapacitate. If there are at least three such characters, Kree Private also modifies his combat values by +1.

My questions:

A) If the criteria is met, and Kree Private can now "…also use Incapacitate," does this mean Kree Private's attack will do the damage shown on his dial PLUS lay down an Incapacitate action token after actions resolve? (I ask this becasue in the case of Captain Marvel 007b, he can use Energy Explosion, Incapacitate and Psychic/Penetrating Blast. All three in unison. Boom — target takes penetrating damage, adjacents get penetrating splash damage and the target gets Incapacitated with an action token.)

B) Please refresh me on tripling-up (or quadrupling-up) Incapacitate on a single target, as I can't readily locate the Q&A that covers this. My scenario: if a target character with no action tokens gets hit by four Kree Privates using Incapacitate, do all Incapacitating hits after the second Incapacitation (two action tokens) cause 1 additional click of penetrating damage? (The PAC Card™ leads me to say yes.)

C) Relating to Question B) and the Rule of Three™, is the penetrating damage taken from an Incapacitating push exempt from the Rule of Three™? Borrowing from the above scenarios, I have a Kree Private getting double Enhancement from two adjacent Kree Lieutenants and a third Kree Lieutenant is within 8 squares, fulfilling the criteria on his card to give him a +1 on all combat values. Kree Private shoots and hits a character who already has two push tokens. Damage reducers notwithstanding, would the hit character receive the Incapacitating push damage along with the +3 damage from the Kree Private (+2 from Enhancement, +1 from Kree combat value boost)? (I'll attempt to say YES HE WOULD because the Incapacitating push damage — like knockback damage and critical hits — is exempt from the Rule of Three™. Am I correct?)

My thanks in advance to the revered Council of Elders!

A: No, he can just use Incap, in addition to whatever he could normally. Unless the character in your example has a special power that says all that happens, then it doesn't. PPB and Incap cannot be used together.

B: First hit is a token, second hit is a token, and a push if they cannot use a willpower through some effect. The third hit would be 1 penetrating. The fourth hit would be 1 penetrating.

C: Incap does not deal the printed damage, Enhancement will do nothing for an Incap attack.

I'm sorry -- I would help, but it's a private situation.

Thanks, darkobiwan.

In my C) example maybe I should boil it down this way: If a character is capable of delivering an action token after a successful attack that deals damage — and his damage stats are already upped by 3 (via Perplex, Enhancement/Empower, modified through another means like a Relic, etc.) — and the target character already has two action tokens — will the third* action token deliver 1 click of penetrating damage in addition to the Rule of Three™?

*I know there is no third action token

As I learned recently in this thread:

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532995

Just because a power grants a token does not mean that it deals penetrating damage to a target that already has two tokens. The penetrating damage must be specified in the power text. If an SP allows a fig to Incapacitate and deal damage as well (as in the old Stunning Blow feat), then yes, I believe you are correct that a double-tokened target with no Willpower variant would be dealt both damage+3 and 1 penetrating. I think whether or not this would all be considered one instance of taking damage would depend on the power's wording (i.e., is there "after actions resolve" language).

Incap is an attack that deals no damage. It can deal damage by the target having two tokens already, but that damage is limited to 1. It cannot be modified. It's not subject to the rule of 3 since its not a combat value, but as I said it can't be modified anyway.

If you are using Stunning Blow, then the only thing that is different is you will deal your damage value. (+/- any modifiers which are subject to the rule of three) The penetrating damage from Incap's passive will not be modified.

Hi Snake Eyes Again—

Good point re: wording of the action token being granted (I followed your link to the example you posed). I'll be sure to note the differentiation between an attack "that also gives an action token" and one that is given "after actions resolve," for example.

Say if Hobgoblin 041b had his SONIC SCREAM special power (Hobgoblin can use Pulse Wave. When he uses Pulse Wave and has no action tokens, each hit character also recieves an action token) increased by +3 via Perplexes, blasted a single opposing target that had two action tokens, would the target not take the +3 and 1 click of penetrating push damage in addition to the Rule of Three™?

Thanks!

EDIT: I think you nerfed this follow-up question. Oh, well… I'll leave it here for others to read and consider.

There would be no penetrating damage from the attempted third token because it wasn't Incap that you used. If he hit a single target Pulsewave, and his damage value was increased by +3, the hit character would be dealt that damage. The side effect of giving a hit character an action token would do nothing since a character cannot be given more than two tokens, and nothing in his power said to do anything else. Incap specifically says... That is the only reason hitting someone with 2 tokens deals 1 point of penetrating. Because the power being used specifically says so. Otherwise nothing happens.