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Can I have the hulk charge and Perplex down a defence he would have perplex from the yellow battery because I read you can do running shot, carry and get empowered so would it work the same way for charge but he is perplexing down a defence after movement then attack?
Characters being carried are considered to be on the map, but they do not occupy any specific square, and can't activate or be affected by any powers, abilities, or other effects.
Starting with the original issue:
You can't use Perplex after moving with Charge or Running shot because you haven't finished the action given to use those powers and you cannot give an action before finishing the current one, free or otherwise. Charge and RS include the movement and the Combat action in their action so no Perplex, Outwit or any other free action can be made. Enhancement and Empower work with RS and Charge because the action contains a movement and, when you finish the movement, you place the carried character, so you can benefit from those powers that require adjacency.
The second thing:
Quote : Originally Posted by Eastb11
No, when carrying with hypersonic speed, carried characters are considered to be off of the map during the attack and throughout the movement.
This used to be true but is no longer the case, even though the result is the same. The character is considered to be on the map, but in an unespecified square, so the Enhancement and Empower would not work. Besides while using HSS you don't end the movement to make the attack, you attack while moving, so the carried character would no be able to be adjacent to the attacker.
Hope it helps, sorry for the awkward use of English, it's not my mother tongue. http://wizkidseventsystem.com/bb/vie...t=carry#p14561
Carry works exactly like it used to (as far as intent) that the carried figure can't activate powers (PC, Enhancement, etc) while being carried, but the long-lasting effects of them being on the map (OW or Barriers that have already been used, Turtle's trait, etc) are still in effect. That's the way it's always worked (short of some bad rulings or poorly written powers) and they reworded it so it's consistent with how it's always worked.
Quote : Originally Posted by Willz501
Characters being carried are considered to be on the map, but they do not occupy any specific square, and can't activate or be affected by any powers, abilities, or other effects.
Right. Since they aren't adjacent to the HSSer carrying them, they can't give the benefit of Enhancement or Empower, nor can the Prob the HSSer, same as it's always worked.
And has already been stated, you can't make any action (free or otherwise) in the middle of any action unless a power says otherwise... HSS, Charge, and RS allow for an attack in the middle of the action, but any Perplex, OW, etc can only be done before or after the full move and attack part (with the rare exception of a power that says you can like KC Flash).
PC is the "odd one out" as it's not actually an action so it can be done in the middle of any of those actions or attacks.
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????
Keep in mind that Perplex, Charge, Close Combat Action is legal as the free action for Perplex is done before the Charge begins
Also, briefly
Hypersonic Speed/Move & Attack: Scoot, punch/shoot (as applicable), scoot. Drop off passenger
Charge/Running Shot: Scoot, drop off passenger. Punch/shoot (as applicable)
The second scoot in HSS may be 0 but you still have to make the attack DURING. This means that, if you HSS up to someone with Plasticity, you stop instantly. This means no HSS attack. But with Charge you stop moving before the attack, so you're good to go (or, rather, slug 'em in the face)
And has already been stated, you can't make any action (free or otherwise) in the middle of any action unless a power says otherwise... HSS, Charge, and RS allow for an attack in the middle of the action, but any Perplex, OW, etc can only be done before or after the full move and attack part (with the rare exception of a power that says you can like KC Flash).
PC is the "odd one out" as it's not actually an action so it can be done in the middle of any of those actions or attacks.
I know what you meant, but technically this is untrue, Charge and Running shot do not allow for an attack in the middle of the action but rather at the end of the action. It is still part of the action but the action ends after the attack, as opposed to Hypersonic speed which allows for movement during the attack.