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Normal rules state precision strike ignores super senses, so I'd say not.
SP attacks can't be evaded.
It doesn't ignore SS. It juts means that even if roll 5-6 you can't evade.
The distinction is important for Teekle how can still roll and attached back to Klarion on a 4-5 roll.
I want to like him. I really do. But I don't know if I can justify 180 points for him.
That opening 17 toughness is going to be a problem. Sure he gets 50/50 super senses that precision strike can't ignore, but one solid hit is going to knock him past his special power and all the way onto his last 3 clicks. From there, you better hope you make that super senses roll, because one more hit from psychic blast or exploit weakness is going to take him out.
Bump up his opening defense to an 18, and I'd consider playing him at that point cost. Give him PC on click #1, and I'd definitely play him. As it is, the only way you'll ever see click #2 is if you willingly push onto it.
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I want to like him. I really do. But I don't know if I can justify 180 points for him.
That opening 17 toughness is going to be a problem. Sure he gets 50/50 super senses that precision strike can't ignore, but one solid hit is going to knock him past his special power and all the way onto his last 3 clicks. From there, you better hope you make that super senses roll, because one more hit from psychic blast or exploit weakness is going to take him out.
Bump up his opening defense to an 18, and I'd consider playing him at that point cost. Give him PC on click #1, and I'd definitely play him. As it is, the only way you'll ever see click #2 is if you willingly push onto it.
I don't know, there's a lot of potential here to build on. Another 10 points for the Marvel Knights ATA and map choice where he can stay behind walls looks to be a piece that if played smartly should never be targeted.
Definitely takes more finesse than Cosmic Spidey, but that's a good thing. It'll be interesting to see if some other pieces come down the line to keep Marvel Knights relevant in the modern age and to help him build around that.
Or you know, just have him be the cannon in a martial artist tieup swarm team.
Plus at the end of the day he's a con exclusive. There's always some automatic hate for those pieces, best they play it safe in designing them and making sure they're not OP. As it is it looks like a fun piece if you get one.
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I don't know, there's a lot of potential here to build on. Another 10 points for the Marvel Knights ATA and map choice where he can stay behind walls looks to be a piece that if played smartly should never be targeted.
Sure, stealth helps, but still doesn't reduce his basic squishiness. And taking up at least another 10 points (possibly more) for the ATA is depleting the limited space left for other figures. I don't see this guy functioning well at 300. Higher point builds where he can have more support, maybe.
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Definitely takes more finesse than Cosmic Spidey, but that's a good thing.
That's a very good thing. I don't want a point-and-shoot piece, I just want one that can survive more than one hit, especially if I'm paying over half a standard build for it.
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Or you know, just have him be the cannon in a martial artist tieup swarm team.
With 120 points left, there's hardly enough to build a swarm team.
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Plus at the end of the day he's a con exclusive. There's always some automatic hate for those pieces, best they play it safe in designing them and making sure they're not OP.
I don't see that being automatic at all. Among the standard-sized pieces, certainly, Faust and Bat-Mite were really the only ones that got hate, but then, they were the only ones that were broken as crap to begin with.
I own 2/3rds of the DC ones, and have played against every standard-sized con-exclusive I don't own. Other than the two I mentioned above, they all vary from "good" or "efficient" to "meh" or "overcosted."
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As it is it looks like a fun piece if you get one.
This is true. Right up until a double-tap KOs him.
Quote : Originally Posted by Thrumble Funk
"I sit corrected. You and Owlman BOTH win the thread."
When it comes to Superman and Batman, Grant Morrison is nothing but a 50's cover band in a 70's psychedelic funk style.
My bad, yo. When looking at it by today's typical clix player standards he is just abysmal.
I forgot the heroclix community had been boiled down to just the "if it won't make me win it's a terrible piece" win-at-all-cost min/max for 300 points or nothing crowd. One man's fun is another man's tears I guess.