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Since it states after actions resolve, Madcap would still heal after taking damage from Pulse Wave correct?
If he's still alive, yeah I don't see any issue. I would think his trait comes back into effect after pule wave resolves. So, Pulse wave would ignore that effect until actions resolve.
If he's still alive, yeah I don't see any issue. I would think his trait comes back into effect after pule wave resolves. So, Pulse wave would ignore that effect until actions resolve.
This is wrong. Madcap's trait would be ignored during Pulse Wave, so it would be like he doesn't have it and it wouldn't trigger. Since it didn't trigger he wouldn't get to heal.
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Here is another question based on this trait. If he takes pushing damage does he still roll a d6 to heal? It's not stating that damage has to be from an attack.
This is wrong. Madcap's trait would be ignored during Pulse Wave, so it would be like he doesn't have it and it wouldn't trigger. Since it didn't trigger he wouldn't get to heal.
Hmmm. interesting...I would have thought that it would come into play after actions resolve...welp rip it.
Here is another question based on this trait. If he takes pushing damage does he still roll a d6 to heal? It's not stating that damage has to be from an attack.
Nothing says it has to be damage from an attack, so pushing damage will trigger the trait.
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I played him tonight in our pre-release and it is such a good piece. It definitely has a lot of potential. Use someone to mastermind damage to him and then he heals. Push and then heal. Ties up players based with him and then heal when taking damage as long as he doesn't get KO'd. So good.
Keep in mind this trait also only triggers 'after actions resolve', no action, no healing. So any effects causing damage outside of an action (non-action effects not triggered during another action, or damage taken after actions resolve) will not trigger this.
Clarify please. What would cause these said circumstances in particular?
Since the Shredder Elite trait occurs "after actions resolve" the damage itself is not an action, but an effect. Madcap would not heal after this damage.
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PUSHING
When a character receives a second action token (usually because it has taken an action on two consecutive turns), deal one pushing damage to that character as actions resolve.
Looks like Pushing will work though...unless the wording on this has changed
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This is wrong. Madcap's trait would be ignored during Pulse Wave, so it would be like he doesn't have it and it wouldn't trigger. Since it didn't trigger he wouldn't get to heal.
I agree with this 100%.
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Keep in mind this trait also only triggers 'after actions resolve', no action, no healing. So any effects causing damage outside of an action (non-action effects not triggered during another action, or damage taken after actions resolve) will not trigger this.
I do not necessarily agree with this because there is a similar precedent with pushing.
As stated above, this is the definition of Pushing:
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PUSHING
When a character receives a second action token (usually because it has taken an action on two consecutive turns), deal one pushing damage to that character as actions resolve.
There are situations where a second token is placed while no action is occurring.
That token is placed after actions resolve, so no action is occurring.
Applying your logic that no action means no healing would mean that in the case of applying a second token no action would mean no pushing.
PUSHING
[C]When a character receives a second action token and becomes pushed outside of an action, deal it one pushing damage after the effect resolves.
that something specified as occurring
In other words, WK has previously ruled for the pushing mechanic that even though the definition includes an action it will still work when there is no action.
That does not, unfortunately, necessarily mean that the same ruling can be applied here.
What it does mean is that we cannot necessarily say that the healing will not trigger without an action.
Neither answer would surprise me, but we cannot say one way or another without an answer from WK.