When Northstar or Aurora use the twin connection pulse wave is it consider a single target pulse wave dealing their full damage? Or is it a multi-target just dealing 1 damage?

Thank You!

My belief is they are still considered targets so the Damage Dealt will be 1.

The last ruling on these kinds of effects was in May 2015, in which they reversed that to be in line with other similar effects that used the "ignore" wording. "Is not affect" means the effect cannot target them.

This came up on Facebook last night. I spent quite some time doing my homework on it.

Lantern Jordan--That was me asking on facebook......I couldn't find the thread on the realms about it......I just wanted a reference tool on the realms that I could easily show someone to answer the question when it will undoubtly come in play.

My opinion is that if Aurora or Northstar "is not affected by this use of Pulse Wave", they are not even considered targets, because they are not affected by it.

Here's the thread where it first came up- http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpo...4&postcount=81

Obviously the provided link is dead, and we were not so good about archiving rulings back then. This exact issue is why we always try to copy/paste official rulings here now. WK's general policy is to remove rulings once things rotate out of Modern Age.

The poster complained about it being a "contradiction", but it was really a reversal. As is said in that post, the older rulings related to other figures with that wording were removed. Like I said on FB, there was a lot of that happening at the time. There was a big cleanup right before rotation in 2015, which like I said, I'm pretty sure was a push towards the new rules that were supposed to be coming within a few months. We all know how that went.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Thank goodness someone remembered that ruling or Alpha Flight would have gotten robbed.

Oh, those 2 and IIM Guardian brought the Alpha Flight from a novelty team to a threat. Heck, I got several of the twins to play in a swarm for that very reason and dominated the game. Lol!

To be fair, I couldn't remember which way it ended up going. I remembered that it came up at some point, but I didn't realize the reversal happened during that big cluster of stuff going on in 2015. That was a particularly chaotic time for the rules, and so much stuff was getting changed/reversed/removed/etc. at that time, that this was easy to miss. It also wasn't easy to find much discussion about it, because it mostly got ignored for the bigger stuff at the time (Power Batteries and such), so I had to do a good amount of digging.

I really wish we had the actual ruling archived somewhere that I could point to. But I was at least able to find enough examples of it being discussed that I'm comfortable using that as my basis, and the fact that this change would have made perfect sense with a lot of the other stuff that they were doing at the time to streamline non-intuitive rulings.

This is why I wish I lived closer to your store. Your diligence is a testament to what a great resource you have been for this community. Mad rep.