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MUTAGENIC EXPERIMENT: FREE: Choose one: Stealth, Shape Change, [Tiny symbol], -or- Giant Reach: 2. Inque can use the chosen power or ability until your next turn.
EFFECT: FREE: This turn, this character can use Battle Fury and modifies its combat values except range +1. At the end of your turn, roll a d6. 1-3: Deal this character 1 unavoidable damage.
So this question is on the fb causing a little uncertainty.
If Inque is equipped with the harness and activates the FREE then after the attack resolves she changes size will that help her avoid the roll and potential damage of the harness?
If an effect causes an equipped standard character to
become non-standard (such as becoming or ),
they stay equipped, but can’t use the equipment’s EFFECT
ability.
I'm thinking she would still have to roll and maybe take it because it is a trigger with a duration but the argument being made is that the above rule somehow mitigates that. Any help is appreciated.
The effect of the Venom Harness grants a FREE that, when activated, creates a burst effect which includes all of what follows "FREE." All of that will happen, even if the harness becomes unequipped in some manner. The effect includes the trigger waiting for the end of your turn to resolve the D6 roll.
Already answered, but since I have the pdf open and it happened to already be on this page, I might as well... Page 10:
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A “beginning/end triggered effect” will also trigger and then resolve if it was set up by another effect that resolved, even if the power or ability that set up the triggered effect can no longer be used or is lost.
I initially struggled with this concept in combination with the idea that Outwit/Perplex end if lost, but this has a key difference. Those are duration effects, lasting until a certain point. Venom Harness has a specific trigger time.
Sounds like you get the idea. The Venom Harness is actually setting up another effect though. In techinical rules language:
Outwit/Perplex have effects with durations, when those powers are "Lost" their durations expire immediately (ending the effects.)
As part of the Venom Harness effect, it sets up another triggered effect. Since the effect Venom Harness sets up is an End Triggered effect, it will resolve even if the original Venom Harness effect is "lost" or "can't be used." (Page 10.)
The duration for +1s to combat values etc. would be "suspended" though if Inque became a non-standard size since she could no longer use the effect of the Harness.
As I suspected. Thank you gents very much for the help. Just to be certain this would be the same answer if the timing was the same using a fig like title Wasp too right?
(-3) PYM PARTICLE RELEASE: FREE: Choose Tiny Symbol, Starburst symbol, Giant symbol, or Colossal symbol. Wasp, Heart of the Avengers and adjacent friendly characters (that aren't vehicles) gain that symbol until your next turn.
The general takeaway is: "after resolutions" and "beginning/end" triggered effects that were set up by other effects (that resolved) will always hang around waiting for the correct time to trigger. (Regardless of how or why the effect that set them up was "stopped.")
I think that is clear at this point, but reflecting upon recent threads, I want to make sure I am doing my best to teach people how to fish and not just giving them a few mackerels for the road