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Few questions concerning a team i played against lately
Hi everyone,
I recently played a fun game with a friend, with house rules that made all possible but i was asking myself few questions regarding the team in competitive games with regular rules.
The team : 300pts
at 85pts
at 115pts
at 25pts
possessing Batman, 25pts
possessing Superman, 25pts
with 2 sins for 20pts : Sloth on batman and Wrath on superman
one ID-card for 5 pts :
bringing to put John bystander on the map.
The questions :
1) Is the Pandora's box allowed to assign a sin to Superman or Batman, while they are already equipped with Ion or Black Hand ? ( other questions assume this one is possible).
2) The Force of Will power increases def while other modify : does this allow Batman to reach a possible 22 defense (17 +3max from ion choice and combat reflexes for example and +2 increase from two action tokens) ?
3) the robot generate debris marker in the whole area of effect of his retaliation... assuming he close attacks a adjacent character, the area cover the cases the robot is in ... so after the attack he is on 4 cases of debris or hindering terrain. Does this mean he is now untargettable from range cause of the Batman TA's stealth ? (considering he is "colossal" it's fun to imagine he can be "invisible" due to the impact of his attack ...)
4) the possessors dials are linked to the owner's dial : does this means Ion starts on click 4, and Black hand on click 6 ? (i think it is, but i want to be sure... For info : the links here indicate click 1 for both but Batman starts on click 4 and 6 for Superman at this cost)
5) Assuming Superman and Black Hand linked are on click 6, can Superman pick the shape change with possession trait, even if no stat from BH is better than his own ?
6) calling in Zatanna, drop the bystander. On next turn, does the bystander stay when Zat' leave the game ? (i think so aswell but again, want to be sure)
7) Does the use of possessors or the ID-card (with zatanna sideline without the keyword) prevent the team from being themed with Justice league keyword ?
8) Is this team competitively legal or something in it is restricted atm ?
9) With question 1 allowing possessor equipped and sin assigned at the same time : can Superman take an object with super strength on top of that for an object attack ? Or for example a Mjolnir dropped from an enemy KO's ?
Thanks alot in advance for taking time to answer me !
Have a nice day with lot of HeroClix !
I recently played a fun game with a friend, with house rules that made all possible but i was asking myself few questions regarding the team in competitive games with regular rules.
The team : 300pts
at 85pts
at 115pts
at 25pts
possessing Batman, 25pts
possessing Superman, 25pts
with 2 sins for 20pts : Sloth on batman and Wrath on superman
one ID-card for 5 pts :
bringing to put John bystander on the map.
The questions :
1) Is the Pandora's box allowed to assign a sin to Superman or Batman, while they are already equipped with Ion or Black Hand ? ( other questions assume this one is possible).
2) The Force of Will power increases def while other modify : does this allow Batman to reach a possible 22 defense (17 +3max from ion choice and combat reflexes for example and +2 increase from two action tokens) ?
3) the robot generate debris marker in the whole area of effect of his retaliation... assuming he close attacks a adjacent character, the area cover the cases the robot is in ... so after the attack he is on 4 cases of debris or hindering terrain. Does this mean he is now untargettable from range cause of the Batman TA's stealth ? (considering he is "colossal" it's fun to imagine he can be "invisible" due to the impact of his attack ...)
4) the possessors dials are linked to the owner's dial : does this means Ion starts on click 4, and Black hand on click 6 ? (i think it is, but i want to be sure... For info : the links here indicate click 1 for both but Batman starts on click 4 and 6 for Superman at this cost)
5) Assuming Superman and Black Hand linked are on click 6, can Superman pick the shape change with possession trait, even if no stat from BH is better than his own ?
6) calling in Zatanna, drop the bystander. On next turn, does the bystander stay when Zat' leave the game ? (i think so aswell but again, want to be sure)
7) Does the use of possessors or the ID-card (with zatanna sideline without the keyword) prevent the team from being themed with Justice league keyword ?
8) Is this team competitively legal or something in it is restricted atm ?
9) With question 1 allowing possessor equipped and sin assigned at the same time : can Superman take an object with super strength on top of that for an object attack ? Or for example a Mjolnir dropped from an enemy KO's ?
Thanks alot in advance for taking time to answer me !
Have a nice day with lot of HeroClix !
1. Yes. Sins aren't equipped like possesors are.
2. Increase still means modify. Rule of Three caps you at 20.
3. I believe the robot would benefit from Stealth in this case, yes.
4 I believe this is also correct.
5. Sure can.
6. Yes.
7. They would have in the past. I don't think their keywords matter anymore. Stay tuned for someone who knows better.
8. I know for sure that the entities are retired.
9. Yes, he could pick up an object. He wouldn't be able to equip anything else though. He could still attack with an object too.
On a personal note: this was a fun game with a friend???? I haven't seen so many crutches since I visited the nursing home...
Your friend is a mad man, but at least you know what to get them as a present! I recommend a fully-loaded Book of the Skull (or Green Power Battery.) They would adore dropping Hammers on everyone, and that would be waaaay less complicated for you (but they could complex it up to their hearts content!)
Book full of hammers, Mistress Death, Surtur, goblin King , and a supp/carry was another team we could play... I chose the IG/thanos at 175/shifting focus Dr. Strange/Mangog/ID-card wolverine one... fun to play and the game was really close (should have swap Mangog for Surtur maybe). We play since beginning of heroclix so yeah we have some stuff ... not hard to find what to get each other as gifts, you're right !
Regarding the 7th question:ID Cards and Characters on your sideline doesn't count for or against Themed Teams creation; on the other hand Possessors do since they are considered characters on your force even if attached to someone.
Regarding the 7th question:ID Cards and Characters on your sideline doesn't count for or against Themed Teams creation; on the other hand Possessors do since they are considered characters on your force even if attached to someone.
No, possessors don't count against theme as they are considered equipment, from the comprehensive rules:
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EQUIPMENT-CHARACTERS
Equipment-Characters are characters that can be equipped to other characters. An Equipment-Character, that is equipped, is no longer considered a character for any effect. They are considered equipment that is not an object.
Equipment-Characters each have their own rules on equipping and unequipping. When a character is no longer considered a character for gameplay purposes (such as becoming Equipment) and has a game element equipped or attached, you treat the character as if it has been KO’d for the purposes of the equipped or attached game elements.
OsArkady, i was there and still playing them when they changed the ruling to make them count. If now they changed it again it is another story especially since there are currently none in Modern.
OsArkady, i was there and still playing them when they changed the ruling to make them count. If now they changed it again it is another story especially since there are currently none in Modern.
With respect, it appears that you have been absent from the game and/or Realms for a few years. It might be a good idea to be a little more cautious and attentive to others that are offering up current answers, especially when they even quote the Rulebook. It has been a commonly known for a few years that Equipment-Characters(previously 'posessors') do not count towards Themed Teams.
Regarding #8, the whole team would be legal in a golden age game, but Zatanna is the only thing you listed that is currently modern.
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????