i have a friend who was playing chaos sorcerer.
and tries to summon it from the graveyard by removing 1 dark and 1 light monster.
i looked over ude's site and it didnt state you couldnt.

they think judges are wrong. i just need help cause i aint even a judge and i cant convince them.its frustrating lol

plz answer even if this is already answered.=\

Chaos Sorcerer can only be played from your hand by removing 1 light and 1 dark monster. Once in the graveyard you cannot use that effect (removing 1 light and 1 dark monster) t o summon him from the grave. However if he was summoned by removing 1 light and 1 dark monster then you can Premature Burial, Call of the Haunted, Monster Reborn him. If he was was discarded or just wasn't summoned by removing 1 light and 1 dark monster then he cannot be brought from the graveyard to the field.

ok first off im not a newbie thats really upsetting im just a person who comes up with great ideas and a person who may i say brings up a good point yes im the one playing the chaos card and two he didn't say it how i asked him to say it , ok first off i ddi discard my light and dark card FIRST to summon him and then he was killed by a higher attack now what i want to know is once he was send to the graveyard by a higher attack can i discard one more light and dark card to resummon him back i mean it does say special summon? and a special summon is special its not like its a normal sac or a normal summon and two it does not say anywhere on the card OR the rules that i can not do it ? and i know judges say it but i want to know one little thing and i will leave you all alone DID you judges ASK the people who MADE the rules in the first place IF you can't do that? or did you just go by what you think? i mean do you have Real proof that you can't do that? did they say you can't?

Yes, you are TOTALLY WRONG!

For starters you MUST REMOVE Light and Dark from Graveyard not DISCARD FROM HAND

Next if you have been playing Yugoh for longer then a uyear or played BLS / CED you know you vcannot do that.

Also , on the UDE Yugioh Site (Offical Yugioh TCG site) it clearly states under Chaos Sorcerer that you CANNOT remove (Or discard in what ur saying) to Special Summon from the graveyard.

I dont know if your a newbie or not I am not pointing fingers or calling names but it seems you should brush up on your Ruligns and basic gameplay... Or maybe itès a misreading problem...?

No matter what, the effect of Chaos Sorcerer requiring you to remove a LIGHT and DARK monster from play to summon him can only be used when he's coming from your hand. However, you said you summoned him in this way the first time. Though you can't do this from the Graveyard, you can use Monster Reborn and the like to resummon him since you brought him out properly.

is it just me or is it the only one who half way gets what i just said in my last post was super puzzler ????

:: claps for super puzzler for being smart of LISTENING to what i said ::

ok do we all know yet why? im clapping super puzzle for listening and not you sythron ???? why? because first off i DIDN'T SAY I DISCARDED FROM MY HAND infact i never once told you where i discarded from now did i? so who are you to just think im a newbie by discarding from my hand? i mean how dumb would i have to be to do that? i mean pleaseeeee , yes i did discard my light and dark mon FROM THE BLOODLY GRAVEYARD LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for once , you know for a judge you don't listen to great try reading a post fully befor you pass judgemen dear and you call me a newbie? and i to am not pointing fingers ^.- , any way and yes i have been playing yugioh for a year thank you very much i happen to be 21 i just wonder how old you are i bet your younger and to get on with this long story , i was reading the upperdeck rules about this and about chaos and i happen to know because i was reading it very closely that it does not say ANY where that i can not speical summon it from the graveyard by useing the same effect , so if it does not say that i can not what proof do you have that i can't? has upperdeck told you them selfs that i can not? if they have i will go away and be happy but don't you care call me a newbie for trying to find out the truth im not doing any more or less then you would and you know damn well im bringing up a good point here.

I went browsing through the Old Judge Group for some proof. I hope This Helps some

I think this is all just common sense, how many monsters do you know that can just be summoned from the graveyard like that...now there are some that can and they specificly say, i'd give you an example if i were willing to look for one, BUT there is no where on that card that says "when this card is destroyed and sent to the graveyard remove a LIGHT and DARK monster to special summon it to the field" because you know it would say that, it would strictly tell you if you were able to special summon it from the graveyard, i went to check out the rulebook but it says something that is of help from me, but i think if you've been a duelist for over a year then you should know by now that you can't just do that, the card is in your graveyard not your hand, if i could use any card effect in the graveyard then their wouldn't be much point of a graveyard would there

You didn't have to say it was discarded from your hand because that is all it means. You CANNOT discard a card from your graveyard because the definition of discard in the game of Yu-Gi-Oh is to basically put cards in your hand into the graveyard. Of course sythron is going to assume you meant from your hand because thats what the definition of discard is. So watch what you say. Also, in accordance with the basic rules of Yu-Gi-Oh, special summon requirements on cards are meant for special summoning from hand UNLESS otherwise stated, such is the case with cards like revival jam, where you must pay 1000 life to revive it from the grave.

Dose it say u can special summon it form your grave by removing light and dark?? if no then of coarse u don't special summon him from the grave by removing those mosters mostly everyone know that.

Well dear i know you all think you feel so smart thinkin i so know nothing by saying everybody knows that you can't do that well dear you all know that because your goin by judges or usein your comensence but comensence only means your goin by what you belive it means , but unless upperdeck said so in the rules i belive it should mean that you can , but :: sighs :: im tired of this fight and its true even i will say that comen sence means you couldn't , but whatever im tired of this its dumb and meanless fight.

Maybe not regarding the answer to your question but in means of saying something about this discussion......... I really don't believe there are dumb questions or meaningless arguments...... maybe it's just the way anybody could see something from a different point of view......... so come ppl just chill out...... I guess anybody can make a mistake, no need to get upset by the replies or put someone down for a question...... someway along the way, anyone of us can make a mistake........... now Mazzera in regards to your question...... no you can't summon him by removing 1 l/d monster when CS is in the graveyard...... it's the simple mechanics of the game..... CS summoning implicates it would be from your hand.... you can bring him back with COH, PB nevertheless........

dumb and meaningless fight??? comensence???

Meh, let me clarify something. First of all, despite their words, harsh or not, their intentions are good. Teaching someone the basic rules of the game is always good. =)

The thing is that not everything has to be 'Upperdeck said so' or 'Konami said so' but rather an understanding of how the game mechanics run. Some people do go by 'my judge told me this' and 'I read this one this other thread/site/blog' and that is kinda sad because they are not expressing their understanding of the reason behind the ruling.

Another thing is the use of certain words. Words like 'discard', 'send', 'destroy', 'cost', 'priority', 'remove from play' and so forth mean VERY SPECIFIC things and should not be used lightly. When you use certain words, that is what people are going to think because as with any other game, to get the right message across, you need to use the right words.

Also, "just because the card says so and so and it doesn't say so and so doesn't mean that it can do so and so" arguments are really really pointless. Instead, read through the basic and advanced gameplay section on www.ude.com/yugioh and try to understand the mechanics behind the gameplay. Replace the cards listed there with different cards, then ask a friendly judge you know online (not me) if that is how it is supposed to work as well. MOST amicable judges would be happy to help you. However, make sure you ask a judge who has a history of decent posts about the right rulings (unfortunately, not all judges are as competent as they should be and yet still brag about being one and other don't even judge).

I guess thats the end of my lesson for today. Please drop off $20 into the box by the door before you leave. =)