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what would happen if i had 2 monsters face down on my field (lets say a morphing jar #2 and a cyber jar)
i activate book of taiyou and chain to it w/ serial spell, the origonal target for the first book of taiyou is morphing jar #2 and the serial spell that is now a book of taiyou targets the cyber jar, what happens?
also what would happen if the first book targeted cyberjar and the second one targeted morphing jar? thanks
what would happen if i had 2 monsters face down on my field (lets say a morphing jar #2 and a cyber jar)
i activate book of taiyou and chain to it w/ serial spell, the origonal target for the first book of taiyou is morphing jar #2 and the serial spell that is now a book of taiyou targets the cyber jar, what happens?
also what would happen if the first book targeted cyberjar and the second one targeted morphing jar? thanks
Actually, if they're BOTH your own monster's, you would actually get to decide which you want to resolve first since they're both your own monster's.
In an attempt to grasp the game mechanics myself, I will try to educate you guys on them.
So far, the chain looks like this:
Resolve First: Serial Spell = Book of Taiyou - Morphing Jar flips up
Resolve Last: Book of Taiyou - Cyber Jar flips up
Since you're in the resolution stage of this chain, no more links can be added to the chain. You must finish resolution before you can activate (or resolve) any other effects. This means that MJ is activated, but is put on Chain Link 1 of a new and separate chain. Then, CJ is activated, and is placed on Chain Link 2 of the new and separate chain. After the current chain is resolved, go ahead and resolve the chain with the Jars.
Resolve First: Cyber Jar
Resolve Last: Morphing Jar
The controller of the cards only gets to choose which link the cards go in to is when they are activated simultaneously (i.e. Swords of Revealing Light vs. Cyber Jar and Morphing Jar). In this case, the effects are activated at different times.
You can create a chain while one is resolving, only because those are mandatory effects that MUST BE resolved. If these were optional effects, it would be different. I based this off of other rulings, so I might be a little mixed up on these things.
I could be wrong, so get a few other people to confirm for me. I always like to get second and third opinions, regardless.
Well cool kid, you sound right, however from what others have told me, you cannot create a chain, while another is resolving.
Cool Kid is right......... maybe the clearing on what he might of explained was a bit blury because of one peculiar thing that he might of missed saying..... its not that you can't create a new chain it's that you CAN'T INTERRUPT THE CURRENT CHAIN, so when your in the middle of chain and in between this another "MANDATORY" (heres where coolkids explanation comes in) effect "triggers" it CANNOT resolve in the current chain, it has to begin a new chain and once the current one fully resolves the newly created chain will begin to resolve.....
I'm confused again. In this example only one monster would actually get the effect the way I understood it. You couldn't have both Cyber Jar and Morphing Jar #2 get effects could you? One would counteract the other. If you choose to resolve Cyber Jar first then it would destroy Morphing Jar #2 or if you resolve Morphing #2 first then Cyber Jar ends up back in the deck. Or do the effects still get resolved meaning it would be like this.
Cyber Jar resolves first. Destroy both monsters and do the 5 card thing. Then monsters would get summoned. Now resolve #2 and those monsters get shuffled back into the deck and pick up cards til that many are found. Is that right?
I'm confused again. In this example only one monster would actually get the effect the way I understood it. You couldn't have both Cyber Jar and Morphing Jar #2 get effects could you? One would counteract the other. If you choose to resolve Cyber Jar first then it would destroy Morphing Jar #2 or if you resolve Morphing #2 first then Cyber Jar ends up back in the deck. Or do the effects still get resolved meaning it would be like this.
Cyber Jar resolves first. Destroy both monsters and do the 5 card thing. Then monsters would get summoned. Now resolve #2 and those monsters get shuffled back into the deck and pick up cards til that many are found. Is that right?
Assuming Cyber Jar went off first??
Both effects would go off, even though Cyber resolves first Morphing's effect will still keep "lingering" and would resolve after Cyber is done........... (i.e. this is why trigger monsters effect still go through even though they could be trap holed, BTH, TT etc.... it doesn't matter that the monster is not on the field only thing that matters is that their effect is activated at certain point)
OK, so if they are flipped by a card effect then it would work, but manually flipping would have to choose one. So Desert Sunlight in this example if played on opponent's turn would fip them both and the turn player would choose which to resolve first or the card owner?
OK, so if they are flipped by a card effect then it would work, but manually flipping would have to choose one. So Desert Sunlight in this example if played on opponent's turn would fip them both and the turn player would choose which to resolve first or the card owner?
That is correct.
Flip-effect monsters that are flipped at the same time by a card effect will use a chain (SEGOC) and the controller of the cards will choose the order of resolution.