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Dumb question: Giant Trunade & Call of the Haunted
Can I assume that if my opponent uses Giant Trunade, I can activate my f/d Call of the Haunted card to Special Summon a monster before Call of the Haunted returns to my hand? If that's possible, can I activate Scapegoat too if there are spaces available to Special Summon 4 tokens?
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Yes you can chain Traps/Spells to the activation of Giant Trunade.
If you were to chain Call of the Haunted to Giant Trunade, Call would special summon a monster, and them be removed from the field, which would destroy the monster you just summoned. The only thing that would protect the monster is if it were a monster unaffected by Trap cards.(Read Call of The Haunted for why the monster would be destroyed).
You can also chain Quickplay Spells to Giant Trunade. So since Scapegoat is a Quickplay Spell, you can chain it provided you had not performed any kind of summon that turn, and you have the proper number of monster spaces free.
Can I assume that if my opponent uses Giant Trunade, I can activate my f/d Call of the Hunted card to Special Summon a monster before Call of the Hunted returns to my hand? If that's possible, can I activate Scapegoat too if there are spaces available to Special Summon 4 tokens?
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1. For Call of the Haunted, yes you can, but unless you're special summoning Jinzo or E. Hero Wildman or Tyrant Dragon (by tributing a Dragon) or something like that, then there would be no point in doing so since, when Call of the Haunted is returned to your hand, the monster that was Special Summoned by it will immediately be destroyed.
Select 1 monster from your Graveyard and Special Summon it in face-up Attack Position. When this card is removed from the field, destroy the monster. When the monster is destroyed, destroy this card.
So you'd have to reset it and reuse it again (again, unless you summoned Jinzo or E. Hero Wildman or something that would negate or be unaffected by Call of the Haunted).
2. Yes, you may use Scapegoat if you have 4 open monster zones AND if you haven't Summoned anything that turn (so if you used Call of the Haunted that turn already, you could not activate Scapegoat).
So, what you guys are saying is that the monster Special Summoned by Call of the Haunted would be destroyed if Call of the Haunted is returned to my hand? I thought it would be destroyed if Call of the Haunted were to be removed from the field and out the game.
So, what you guys are saying is that the monster Special Summoned by Call of the Haunted would be destroyed if Call of the Haunted is returned to my hand? I thought it would be destroyed if it were removed from the field and out of the game.
No....cause if that were the case...it would say "If this card is removed from play..."
"Removed from the field" is LITERALLY "removed from the field" in ANY way...
Ok. well, thanks for claryfing this to me. I guess there's still a lot for me to learn. Even when I think I know everything about the game, there's always something I don't do right.
I gotta add in something. Any non Continous Spell or non Continuos trap (with a few exceptions) That is chained to Giant Trunade will not return to the hand. They are deemed to be destroyed and will go to the graveyard when the chain resolves.
There is also something else that you can do when you are in the situation of GIANT TRUNADE and CALL OF THE HAUNTED; when your opponent uses GT you can COTH you SANGAN from the graveyard (assuming you have one) and then when the cain resolves your SANGAN will it the field and then GT will remove COTH from the field and your SANGAN will be destroyed and it the graveyard giving you the opportunity to get a monster from your deck.
Just to give another option, besides the monsters that are unaffected by trap cards.
Can I assume that if my opponent uses Giant Trunade, I can activate my f/d Call of the Haunted card to Special Summon a monster before Call of the Haunted returns to my hand? If that's possible, can I activate Scapegoat too if there are spaces available to Special Summon 4 tokens?
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I may be reading too much into the particular phrasing of Milton's original question but it occurred to me that all the answers are looking at Call of the Haunted and Scapegoat as two separate answers.
Just so I, if no one else, remains confused, I wanted to point out that the restriction for Scapegoat states:
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If you activate this card, you cannot Normal Summon, Flip Summon or Special Summon during this turn.
So, its important to note that what I was reading from Milton's question was that
Link 1: Giant Trunade
Link 2: CotH
Link 3: Scapegoat
Im hoping I just misunderstood, becuase if that is the question then I have to disagree with everyone before me. Scapegoat could not be chained in this situation because it could not be activated in the same turn that Call of the Haunted was activated.
ugh! The rulings in this game have got me analyzing EVERYTHING these days for particular words, phrases, ect.
My understanding would be that you COULD activate them in the same chain but, depending on what was activated first, only one of them would resolve properly.
You'd activate Call of the Haunted, then you'd chain Scapegoat, but since Scapegoat was activated last, then it resolves first and since its restriction is now in effect, Call of the Haunted resolves without effect and just sits as a dead card in the m/t zone.
hmm, that's interesting. Call hasn't actually resolved by that point, so no monsters have actually been summoned, have they?
Ive never run into that situation, but I can see the logic.
I guess if the order of effects were reversed and Call resolved before Scapegoat, that the tokens would not be able to summoned to the field.
Either way you line up the effects during resolution, you would not be able to successfully receive the benefits of both, though. Activation might happen legally, but the summons from both card effects could not occur, even in the same chain.
If you activate "Monster Reborn" and your opponent chains "Imperial Order" you can chain "Scapegoat" and "Royal Decree" but only "Scapegoat" will resolve since "Scapegoat" will prevent any Special Summons, and therefore "Monster Reborn" cannot resolve.
So..I'm thinking the same thing happens here, but since Call of the Haunted is Continuous, it just sits dead on the field since no monster was actually destroyed to allow it to leave the field.
Of course, since this is all chained to Giant Trunade, it'll end up returned to your hand anyways.
my initial reaction was the same, but I can definitely see an argument for the other side.
If the effects get activated before any actual summons has occurred, there is always the possibility of another effect getting added to the chain block that could negate either Call or Scapegoat. Therefore, the activation wouldn't be illegal, would it? Only the resolution of one of those effects would be illegal.